From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:34:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090223123452.GG6740@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87prhauiry.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:57:37AM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> writes:
>
> > The complexity of the page allocator has been increasing for some time
> > and it has now reached the point where the SLUB allocator is doing strange
> > tricks to avoid the page allocator. This is obviously bad as it may encourage
> > other subsystems to try avoiding the page allocator as well.
>
> Congratulations! That was long overdue. Haven't read the patches yet though.
>
Thanks
> > Patch 15 reduces the number of times interrupts are disabled by reworking
> > what free_page_mlock() does. However, I notice that the cost of calling
> > TestClearPageMlocked() is still quite high and I'm guessing it's because
> > it's a locked bit operation. It's be nice if it could be established if
> > it's safe to use an unlocked version here. Rik, can you comment?
>
> What machine was that again?
>
It's a AMD Phenom 9950 quad core.
> > Patch 16 avoids using the zonelist cache on non-NUMA machines
>
> My suspicion is that it can be even dropped on most small (all?) NUMA systems.
>
I'm assuming it should not be dropped for all. My vague memory was that this
was introduced for large IA-64 machines and that they were able to show a
clear gain when scanning large numbers of zones. Patch 16 disables zonelist
caching if there is only one NUMA node but maybe it should be disabled for
more than that.
> > Patch 20 gets rid of hot/cold freeing of pages because it incurs cost for
> > what I believe to be very dubious gain. I'm not sure we currently gain
> > anything by it but it's further discussed in the patch itself.
>
> Yes the hot/cold thing was always quite dubious.
>
Andrew mentioned a micro-benchmark so I will be digging that up to see
what it can show.
> > Counters are surprising expensive, we spent a good chuck of our time in
> > functions like __dec_zone_page_state and __dec_zone_state. In a profiled
> > run of kernbench, the time spent in __dec_zone_state was roughly equal to
> > the combined cost of the rest of the page free path. A quick check showed
> > that almost half of the time in that function is spent on line 233 alone
> > which for me is;
> >
> > (*p)--;
> >
> > That's worth a separate investigation but it might be a case that
> > manipulating int8_t on the machine I was using for profiling is unusually
> > expensive.
>
> What machine was that?
>
This is the AMD Phenom again but I might be mistaken on the line causing
the problem. A second profile run shows all the cost in the function entry
so it might just be a co-incidence that the sampling happened to trigger on
that particular line. It's high on the profiles simply because it's called
a lot. The assembler doesn't look particularly bad or anything.
> In general I wouldn't expect even on a system with slow char
> operations to be that expensive. It sounds more like a cache miss or a
> cache line bounce. You could possibly confirm by using appropiate
> performance counters.
>
I'll check for cache line misses.
> > Converting this to an int might be faster but the increased
> > memory consumption and cache footprint might be a problem. Opinions?
>
> One possibility would be to move the zone statistics to allocated
> per cpu data. Or perhaps just stop counting per zone at all and
> only count per cpu.
>
> > The downside is that the patches do increase text size because of the
> > splitting of the fast path into one inlined blob and the slow path into a
> > number of other functions. On my test machine, text increased by 1.2K so
> > I might revisit that again and see how much of a difference it really made.
> >
> > That all said, I'm seeing good results on actual benchmarks with these
> > patches.
> >
> > o On many machines, I'm seeing a 0-2% improvement on kernbench. The dominant
>
> Neat.
>
> > So, by and large it's an improvement of some sort.
>
> That seems like an understatement.
>
It'll all depend on what other peoples machines turn up :)
--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-22 23:17 Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 01/20] Replace __alloc_pages_internal() with __alloc_pages_nodemask() Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 02/20] Do not sanity check order in the fast path Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 03/20] Do not check NUMA node ID when the caller knows the node is valid Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 16:24 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 11:55 ` [PATCH] mm: clean up __GFP_* flags a bit Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 18:01 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 20:27 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-23 15:23 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 15:41 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 15:43 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated value Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 16:40 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 17:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-24 1:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-02-24 3:59 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 5:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-02-24 11:36 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 16:33 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 16:33 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated value Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 17:41 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 05/20] Check only once if the zonelist is suitable for the allocation Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 06/20] Break up the allocator entry point into fast and slow paths Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 07/20] Simplify the check on whether cpusets are a factor or not Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 7:14 ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-02-23 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 9:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 11:39 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 13:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 9:14 ` Li Zefan
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 08/20] Move check for disabled anti-fragmentation out of fastpath Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 09/20] Calculate the preferred zone for allocation only once Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 10/20] Calculate the migratetype " Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 11/20] Inline get_page_from_freelist() in the fast-path Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 7:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 11:42 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 13:32 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 14:08 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 15:03 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 12/20] Inline __rmqueue_smallest() Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 13/20] Inline buffered_rmqueue() Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 7:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 11:44 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 14/20] Do not call get_pageblock_migratetype() more than necessary Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 15/20] Do not disable interrupts in free_page_mlock() Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 12:23 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 12:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 14:25 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 16/20] Do not setup zonelist cache when there is only one node Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 17/20] Do not double sanity check page attributes during allocation Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 18/20] Split per-cpu list into one-list-per-migrate-type Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 19/20] Batch free pages from migratetype per-cpu lists Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 20/20] Get rid of the concept of hot/cold page freeing Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 9:37 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-23 23:30 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 23:53 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-24 11:51 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-25 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-25 16:01 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-25 16:19 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-26 16:37 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-26 17:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-26 17:15 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-26 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-27 11:33 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-27 15:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-03-03 13:52 ` Mel Gorman
2009-03-03 18:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-27 11:38 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-01 10:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-25 18:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-22 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Andi Kleen
2009-02-23 12:34 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2009-02-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocato Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 0:02 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Andi Kleen
2009-02-23 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 17:49 ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-24 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 7:29 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 8:34 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-23 9:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-23 11:55 ` [PATCH] mm: gfp_to_alloc_flags() Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 14:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 18:17 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 20:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-24 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 14:46 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 15:00 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:22 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 20:26 ` Mel Gorman
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