From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
wassim dagash <wassim.dagash@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: stop kswapd's infinite loop at high order allocation
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:16:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081231111647.GF32239@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081231110619.GA20534@csn.ul.ie>
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:06:19AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 02:32:33AM +0100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 06:59:19PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 07:55:47PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > kswapd gets a sc.order when it is known there is a process trying to get
> > > high-order pages so it can reclaim at that order in an attempt to prevent
> > > future direct reclaim at a high-order. Your patch does not appear to depend on
> > > GFP_KERNEL at all so I found the comment misleading. Furthermore, asking it to
> > > loop again at order-0 means it may scan and reclaim more memory unnecessarily
> > > seeing as all_zones_ok was calculated based on a high-order value, not order-0.
> >
> > It shouldn't, because it should check all that.
> >
>
> Ok, with KOSAKI's patch we
>
> 1. Set order to 0 (and stop kswapd doing what it was asked to do)
> 2. goto loop_again
> 3. nr_reclaimed gets set to 0 (meaning we lose that value, but no biggie
> as it doesn't get used by the caller anyway)
> 4. Reset all priorities
> 5. Do something like the following
>
> for (priority = DEF_PRIORITY; priority >= 0; priority--) {
> ...
> all_zones_ok = 1;
> for (i = pgdat->nr_zones - 1; i >= 0; i--) {
> ...
> if (inactive_anon_is_low(zone)) {
> shrink_active_list(SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, zone,
> &sc, priority, 0);
> }
>
> if (!zone_watermark_ok(zone, order, zone->pages_high,
> 0, 0)) {
> end_zone = i;
> break;
> }
> }
> }
>
> So, by looping around, we could end up shrinking the active list again
> before we recheck the zone watermarks depending on the size of the
> inactive lists.
If this is a problem, it is a problem with that code, because kswapd
can be woken up for any zone at any time anyway.
> > > cond_resched();
> > >
> > > try_to_freeze();
> > >
> > > goto loop_again;
> > > }
> > >
> > > I used PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER instead of sc.order == 0 because we are
> > > expected to support allocations up to that order in a fairly reliable fashion.
> >
> > I actually think it's better to do it for all orders, because that
> > constant is more or less arbitrary.
>
> i.e.
>
> if (!all_zones_ok && sc.order == 0) {
>
> ? or something else
Well, I jus tdon't see what's wrong with the original patch.
> What I did miss was that we have
>
> if (nr_reclaimed >= SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)
> break;
>
> so with my patch, kswapd is bailing out early without trying to reclaim for
> high-orders that hard. That was not what I intended as it means we only ever
> really rebalance the full system for order-0 pages and for everything else we
> do relatively light scanning. The impact is that high-order users will direct
> reclaim rather than depending on kswapd scanning very heavily. Arguably,
> this is a good thing.
>
> However, it also means that KOSAKI's and my patches only differs in that mine
> bails early and KOSAKI rechecks everything at order-0, possibly reclaiming
> more. If the comment was not so misleading, I'd have been a lot happier.
Rechecking everything is fine by me; order-0 is going to be the most
common and most important. If higher order allocations sometimes have
to enter direct reclaim or kick off kswapd again, it isn't a big deal.
> > IOW, I don't see a big downside, and there is a real upside.
> >
> > I think the patch is good.
> >
>
> Which one, KOSAKI's or my one?
>
> Here is my one again which bails out for any high-order allocation after
> just light scanning.
>
> ====
>
> >From 0e09fe002d8e9956de227b880ef8458842b71ca9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:53:23 +0000
> Subject: [PATCH] mm: stop kswapd's infinite loop at high order allocation
>
> Wassim Dagash reported the following (editted) kswapd infinite loop problem.
>
> kswapd runs in some infinite loop trying to swap until order 10 of zone
> highmem is OK.... kswapd will continue to try to balance order 10 of zone
> highmem forever (or until someone release a very large chunk of highmem).
>
> For costly high-order allocations, the system may never be balanced due to
> fragmentation but kswapd should not infinitely loop as a result. The
> following patch lets kswapd stop reclaiming in the event it cannot
> balance zones and the order is high-order.
This one bails out if it was a higher order reclaim, but there is still
an order-0 shortage. I prefer to run the loop again at order==0 to avoid
that condition. A higher kswapd reclaim order shouldn't weaken kswapd
postcondition for order-0 memory.
>
> Reported-by: wassim dagash <wassim.dagash@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
>
> ---
> mm/vmscan.c | 11 ++++++++++-
> 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 62e7f62..7b0f412 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1867,7 +1867,16 @@ out:
>
> zone->prev_priority = temp_priority[i];
> }
> - if (!all_zones_ok) {
> +
> + /*
> + * If zones are still not balanced, loop again and continue attempting
> + * to rebalance the system. For high-order allocations, fragmentation
> + * can prevent the zones being rebalanced no matter how hard kswapd
> + * works, particularly on systems with little or no swap. For
> + * high-orders, just give up and assume interested processes will
> + * either direct reclaim or wake up kswapd again as necessary.
> + */
> + if (!all_zones_ok && sc.order == 0) {
> cond_resched();
>
> try_to_freeze();
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-31 11:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-30 10:55 KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-12-30 11:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-30 18:59 ` Mel Gorman
2008-12-31 1:32 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-31 11:06 ` Mel Gorman
2008-12-31 11:16 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-12-31 12:11 ` Mel Gorman
2008-12-31 4:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-12-31 8:59 ` wassim dagash
2008-12-31 12:05 ` Mel Gorman
2008-12-31 12:24 ` wassim dagash
2008-12-31 11:53 ` Mel Gorman
2008-12-31 13:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-01 14:52 ` [PATCH] mm: stop kswapd's infinite loop at high order allocation take2 KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-02 9:55 ` MinChan Kim
2009-01-02 10:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-02 10:29 ` MinChan Kim
2009-01-02 10:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-02 11:18 ` MinChan Kim
2009-01-02 11:14 ` Mel Gorman
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