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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@gmail.com>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:58:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081201165852.GH10790@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4934149A.4020604@gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 07:45:14PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> >On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 05:02:50PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
> >  
> >>Because SLAB has standard memory wells of 2^x size. None of cached ACPI
> >>objects has exactly this size, so bigger block will be used. Plus, 
> >>internal ACPICA caching will add some overhead.
> >>    
> >
> >That's an insane looking caching thing now that I come to closely read
> >the code. There is so much stuff there that I thought it must have been
> >doing something useful which is why I didn't replace the Linux functions
> >with kmalloc/kfree directly.
> >
> >There is really some operating system you support that has such a poor
> >allocator that you think ACPI can do better in 300 lines of code? Why
> >not just rip that whole thing out?
> >  
> You would laugh, this is due to Windows userspace debug library -- it 
> checks for
> memory leaks by default, and it takes ages to do this.

OK... circumvent the debug library? :) I won't argue. But I agree it is
wrong for Linux so my patch is not good. It needs to use kmalloc at least.


> And ACPICA maintainer is sitting on Windows, so he _cares_.
> >>Do you have another interpreter in kernel space?
> >>    
> >
> >So what makes it special?
> >
> >  
> You don't know what size of program you will end up with.
> DSDT could be almost empty, or you could have several thousand of SSDT 
> tables.

OK. And I guess the sizes of the objects seem to be variable as well.
I still think kmalloc would be fine, and would save memory in some
situations. On tiny systems it is less likely to because each slab
costs less memory.

On a big system, the caches can take some MB each in some configurations.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-01 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-01  8:31 Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 11:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 12:00   ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 13:12     ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:36       ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:14         ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:32           ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:32             ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:37       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 14:02         ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:14           ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:45             ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:58               ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-12-01 17:20               ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:30                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-01 17:32                   ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:20               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:49                 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:53                 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 18:10                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-31 22:04                     ` Len Brown
2009-01-05  4:14                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05  5:43                         ` Skywing
2009-01-05  6:55                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:32         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 14:48           ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:20             ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:04               ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:12                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:25                   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:32                     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:36                       ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:48                         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 18:09                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 17:43                   ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:31 ` Len Brown

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