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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: implement remap_pfn_range with apply_to_page_range
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:35:16 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811141835.17073.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <491D0B2F.7050900@goop.org>

On Friday 14 November 2008 16:22, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Friday 14 November 2008 13:56, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >> Nick Piggin wrote:
> >>> This isn't performance critical to anyone?
> >>
> >> The only difference should be between having the specialized code and an
> >> indirect function call, no?
> >
> > Indirect function call per pte. It's going to be slower surely.
>
> Yes, though changing the calling convention to handle (up to) a whole
> page worth of ptes in one call would be fairly simple I think.

Yep. And leaving it alone is even simpler and still faster :)


> > It is accepted practice to (carefully) duplicate the page table walking
> > functions in memory management code. I don't think that's a problem,
> > there is already so many instances of them (just be sure to stick to
> > exactly the same form and variable names, and any update or bugfix to
> > any of them is trivially applicable to all).
>
> I think that's pretty awful practice, frankly, and I'd much prefer there
> to be a single iterator function which everyone uses.

I think its pretty nice. It means you can make the loops fairly
optimal even if they might have slightly different requirements
(different arguments, latency breaks, copy_page_range etc).


> The open-coded 
> iterators everywhere just makes it completely impractical to even think
> about other kinds of pagetable structures.  (Of course we have at least
> two "general purpose" pagetable walkers now...)

I think that's being way over dramatic. When switching to a
different page table structure, I assure you that copying and
pasting your new walking algorithm a few times will be the least
of your worries :)

It's not meant to be pluggable. Actually this came up last I think
when the UNSW wanted to add page table accessors to abstract this.
They came up with a good set of things, but in the end you can't
justify slowing things down in these paths unless you actually have
a replacement page table structure that gets you a *net win*. So
far, I haven't heard from them again.

No, adding a cycle here or an indirect function call there IMO is
not acceptable in core mm/ code without a good reason.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-14  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-13 17:19 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-13 19:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-11-13 20:12   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-13 20:13   ` [PATCH 3/2] mm/remap_pfn_range: restore missing flush Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-14  2:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: implement remap_pfn_range with apply_to_page_range Nick Piggin
2008-11-14  2:56   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-14  3:17     ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-14  5:22       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-14  7:35         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-11-14 18:04           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-15  9:28             ` Hugh Dickins
2008-11-17  3:03           ` Peter Chubb

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