From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH]Per-cgroup OOM handler
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:28:12 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081111162812.492218fc.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <604427e00811102042x202906ecq2a10eb5e404e2ec9@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:42:23 -0800
Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
> Thank you for your comments.
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <
> kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Here is how we do the one-tick-wait in cgroup_should_oom() in oom_kill.c
> >-------if (!ret) {
> >------->-------/* If we're not going to OOM, we should sleep for a
> >------->------- * bit to give userspace a chance to respond before we
> >------->------- * go back and try to reclaim again */
> >------->-------schedule_timeout_uninterruptible(1);
> >-------}
> and it works well in-house so far as i mentioned earlier. what's
> important here is not "sleeping for one tick", the idea here is to
> reschedule the ooming thread so the oom handler can make action ( like
> adding memory node to the cpuset) and the subsequent page allocator in
> get_page_from_freelist() can use it.
>
Can't we avoid this kind of magical one-tick wait ?
>
> > (Before OOM, the system tend to wait in congestion_wait() or some.)
>
> I am not sure how the call to congestion_wait() relevant to the
> "one-tick-wait"? We are simply just trying to reschedule the ooming task,
> that the oom handler has waken up to have chance doing something.
>
if lucky.
> >
> >
> > OOM-handler shoule be in another cpuset or mlocked in this case
>
> The oom-handler is in the same cgroup as the ooming task. That is why it's
> called per-cgroup oom-handler. However, there's probably a livelock if the
> userspace oom handler is the one that triggers the oom and detach/reattaches
> without ever freeing or adding memory. For this case, either we can detect
> in the kernel by doing something like if(current == pid) or just leave the
> problem up to userspace( the oom handler shouldn't detach itself after
> getting the ooming notification, it is considered to be a user bug? ).
>
Hmm, from discussion of mem_notify handler in Feb/March of this year,
oom-hanlder cannot works well if memory is near to OOM, in general.
Then, mlockall was recomemded to handler.
(and it must not do file access.)
I wonder creating small cpuset (and isolated node) for oom-handler may be
another help.
> >
> > I'm wondering
> > - freeeze-all-threads-in-group-at-oom
> > - free emergency memory to page allocator which was pooled at cgroup
> > creation
> > rather than 1-tick wait
> >
> > BTW, it seems this patch allows task detach/attach always. it's safe(and
> > sane) ?
>
> yes, we allows task detach/attach. So far we don't see any race condition
> except the livelock
> i mentioned above. Any particular scenario can think of now? thanks
>
I don't find it ;)
BTW, shouldn't we disable preempt(or irq) before taking spinlocks ?
> > +static int cgroup_should_oom(void)
> > +{
> > + int ret = 1; /* OOM by default */
> > + struct oom_cgroup *cs;
> > +
> > + task_lock(current);
> > + cs = oom_cgroup_from_task(current);
> > +
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-11 7:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-03 21:40 Ying Han
2008-11-03 22:19 ` Ying Han
2008-11-06 5:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <604427e00811102042x202906ecq2a10eb5e404e2ec9@mail.gmail.com>
2008-11-11 7:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2008-11-11 8:14 ` David Rientjes
2008-11-11 8:27 ` Paul Menage
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