From: steve@chygwyn.com
To: Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
npiggin@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fs: improved handling of page and buffer IO errors
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:59:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081023095949.GB6640@fogou.chygwyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081022222316.GI15154@wotan.suse.de>
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:23:16PM -0700, Mark Fasheh wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 01:59:15PM +0100, steve@chygwyn.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 02:52:45PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > IO error handling in the core mm/fs still doesn't seem perfect, but with
> > > > the recent round of patches and this one, it should be getting on the
> > > > right track.
> > > >
> > > > I kind of get the feeling some people would rather forget about all this
> > > > and brush it under the carpet. Hopefully I'm mistaken, but if anybody
> > > > disagrees with my assertion that error handling, and data integrity
> > > > semantics are first-class correctness issues, and therefore are more
> > > > important than all other non-correctness problems... speak now and let's
> > > > discuss that, please.
> > >
> > > I agree that error handling is important. But careful: some
> > > filesystems (NFS I know) don't set PG_error on async read errors, and
> > > changing the semantics of ->readpage() from returning EIO to retrying
> > > will potentially cause infinite loops. And no casual testing will
> > > reveal those because peristent read errors are extremely rare.
> > >
> > > So I think a better aproach would be to do
> > >
> > > error = lock_page_killable(page);
> > > if (unlikely(error))
> > > goto readpage_error;
> > > if (PageError(page) || !PageUptodate(page)) {
> > > unlock_page(page);
> > > shrink_readahead_size_eio(filp, ra);
> > > error = -EIO;
> > > goto readpage_error;
> > > }
> > > if (!page->mapping) {
> > > unlock_page(page);
> > > page_cache_release(page);
> > > goto find_page;
> > > }
> > >
> > > etc...
> > >
> > > Is there a case where retrying in case of !PageUptodate() makes any
> > > sense?
> > >
> > Yes... cluster filesystems. Its very important in case a readpage
> > races with a lock demotion. Since the introduction of page_mkwrite
> > that hasn't worked quite right, but by retrying when the page is
> > not uptodate, that should fix the problem,
>
> Btw, at least for the readpage case, a return of AOP_TRUNCATED_PAGE should
> be checked for, which would indicate (along with !PageUptodate()) whether we
> need to retry the read. page_mkwrite though, as you point out, is a
> different story.
> --Mark
>
Yes, and although I probably didn't make it clear I was thinking
specifically of the page fault path there where both readpage and
page_mkwrite hang out.
Also, I've looked through all the current GFS2 code and it seems to
be correct in relation to Miklos' point on PageUptodate() vs
page->mapping == NULL so I don't think any changes are required there,
but obviously that needs to be taken into account in filemap_fault wrt
to retrying in the lock demotion case. In other words we should be
testing for page->mapping == NULL rather than !PageUptodate() in that
case,
Steve.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-23 9:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-21 11:21 Nick Piggin
2008-10-21 12:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 12:59 ` steve
2008-10-21 13:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 13:38 ` steve
2008-10-21 14:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 15:09 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 12:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 14:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 14:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-21 14:59 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:25 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 12:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 13:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 14:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23 13:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 22:23 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-10-23 9:59 ` steve [this message]
2008-10-23 10:21 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 10:52 ` steve
2008-10-23 11:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 13:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 20:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:30 ` steve
2008-10-22 10:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 18:46 ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-22 20:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 7:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 23:07 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-23 7:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 9:44 ` steve
2008-10-23 11:15 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 22:48 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-24 1:05 ` Nick Piggin
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