From: steve@chygwyn.com
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: zbr@ioremap.net, npiggin@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fs: improved handling of page and buffer IO errors
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:25:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081021162501.GA29653@fogou.chygwyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KsJxx-0006l4-NH@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 06:20:17PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, steve@chygwyn.co wrote:
> > No, I guess it might be possible, but for the time being it is
> > its own "glock" plus the page lock dependency. I'd have to
> > think quite hard about what the consequences of using the
> > inode lock would be.
> >
> > Of course we do demand the inode lock as well in some cases
> > since the vfs has already grabbed it before calling
> > into the filesystem when its required. Because of that and
> > where we run the glock state machine from, it would be rather
> > complicated to make that work I suspect,
>
> BTW, why do you want strict coherency for memory mappings? It's not
> something POSIX mandates. It's not even something that Linux always
> did.
>
Its something that GFS has always done, and so we've tried to keep
that feature in GFS2. I think we do (at least I do) try to suggest
to people that they shouldn't be relying on this, but we've always
tried to make it work anyway, at least on the principle of least
surprise.
> If I were an application writer, I'd never try to rely on mmap
> coherency without the appropriate magic msync() calls.
>
> Miklos
Yes, I'd agree, but I write kernel code, not applications :-)
Thanks for the explanation on splice, I'll take a look at that
code now and try to understand it in more detail,
Steve.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-21 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-21 11:21 Nick Piggin
2008-10-21 12:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 12:59 ` steve
2008-10-21 13:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 13:38 ` steve
2008-10-21 14:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 15:09 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 12:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 14:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 14:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-21 14:59 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:25 ` steve [this message]
2008-10-21 16:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 12:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 13:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 14:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23 13:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 22:23 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-10-23 9:59 ` steve
2008-10-23 10:21 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 10:52 ` steve
2008-10-23 11:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 13:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 20:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:30 ` steve
2008-10-22 10:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 18:46 ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-22 20:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 7:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 23:07 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-23 7:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 9:44 ` steve
2008-10-23 11:15 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 22:48 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-24 1:05 ` Nick Piggin
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