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From: steve@chygwyn.com
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: zbr@ioremap.net, npiggin@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fs: improved handling of page and buffer IO errors
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:25:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081021162501.GA29653@fogou.chygwyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KsJxx-0006l4-NH@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>

Hi,

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 06:20:17PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, steve@chygwyn.co wrote:
> > No, I guess it might be possible, but for the time being it is
> > its own "glock" plus the page lock dependency. I'd have to
> > think quite hard about what the consequences of using the
> > inode lock would be.
> > 
> > Of course we do demand the inode lock as well in some cases
> > since the vfs has already grabbed it before calling
> > into the filesystem when its required. Because of that and
> > where we run the glock state machine from, it would be rather
> > complicated to make that work I suspect,
> 
> BTW, why do you want strict coherency for memory mappings?  It's not
> something POSIX mandates.  It's not even something that Linux always
> did.
>
Its something that GFS has always done, and so we've tried to keep
that feature in GFS2. I think we do (at least I do) try to suggest
to people that they shouldn't be relying on this, but we've always
tried to make it work anyway, at least on the principle of least
surprise.
 
> If I were an application writer, I'd never try to rely on mmap
> coherency without the appropriate magic msync() calls.
> 
> Miklos

Yes, I'd agree, but I write kernel code, not applications :-)
Thanks for the explanation on splice, I'll take a look at that
code now and try to understand it in more detail,

Steve.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-21 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-21 11:21 Nick Piggin
2008-10-21 12:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 12:59   ` steve
2008-10-21 13:14     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 13:38       ` steve
2008-10-21 14:32         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 15:09           ` steve
2008-10-21 16:13             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 12:51               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 14:08                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 14:35         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-21 14:59           ` steve
2008-10-21 16:20             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:25               ` steve [this message]
2008-10-21 16:28               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:29                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 12:48                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 13:45                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:02                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 14:35                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:45                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23 13:48                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 22:23     ` Mark Fasheh
2008-10-23  9:59       ` steve
2008-10-23 10:21         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 10:52           ` steve
2008-10-23 11:07             ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 13:16   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 20:09     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:30   ` steve
2008-10-22 10:31   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 18:46     ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-22 20:19       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23  7:08       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 23:07     ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-23  7:07       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23  9:44         ` steve
2008-10-23 11:15           ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 22:48             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-24  1:05               ` Nick Piggin

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