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From: steve@chygwyn.com
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: npiggin@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fs: improved handling of page and buffer IO errors
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:09:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081021150948.GB28279@fogou.chygwyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KsIHV-0006JW-65@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>

Hi,

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:32:21PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, steve@chygwyn.com
> > Once thats done, the dlm/glock is dropped (again notification is via
> > the dlm) and if Node A has outstanding requests queued up, it
> > re-requests the glock. This is a slightly simplified explanation
> > but, I hope it gives the general drift.
> 
> Yes, thanks.
> 
> > So to return to the original subject, in order to allow all
> > this locking to occur with no lock ordering problems, we have
> > to define a suitable ordering of page locks vs. glocks, and the
> > ordering that we use is that glocks must come before page locks. The
> > full ordering of locks in GFS2 is in Documentation/filesystems/gfs2-glocks.txt
> > 
> > As a result of that, the VFS needs reads (and page_mkwrite) to
> > retry when !PageUptodate() in case the returned page has been
> > invalidated at any time when the page lock has been dropped.
> 
> Since this commit PG_uptodate isn't cleared on invalidate:
> 
>   commit 84209e02de48d72289650cc5a7ae8dd18223620f
>   Author: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>
>   Date:   Fri Aug 1 20:28:47 2008 +0200
>   
>       mm: dont clear PG_uptodate on truncate/invalidate
> 
> Testing for !page->mapping, however, is a reliable way to detect both
> truncation and invalidation.
> 
> So the page can have the following states:
> 
>   !PG_uptodate                    -> page has not been read
>   PG_uptodate && page->mapping    -> page has been read and is valid
>   PG_uptodate && !page->mapping   -> page has been read but no longer valid
> 
> So PG_uptodate does not reflect the validity of the data, only whether
> the data was ever made up-to-date.
> 
> Does this make sense?  Should it be documented somewhere?
>
Well I'm not sure why we'd need to distinguish between "page has not been read"
and "page has been read but no longer valid". I guess I don't understand why
those two cases are not the same from the vfs and filesystem points of
view.

I'm sure it should be documented :-) it certainly seems confusing and if we
want to keep this scheme, can we change PG_uptodate to PG_wasread or
PG_usedonce or something like that which more clearly reflects its
purpose in that case,

Steve.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-21 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-21 11:21 Nick Piggin
2008-10-21 12:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 12:59   ` steve
2008-10-21 13:14     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 13:38       ` steve
2008-10-21 14:32         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 15:09           ` steve [this message]
2008-10-21 16:13             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 12:51               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 14:08                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 14:35         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-21 14:59           ` steve
2008-10-21 16:20             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:25               ` steve
2008-10-21 16:28               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:29                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 12:48                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 13:45                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:02                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 14:35                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:45                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23 13:48                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 22:23     ` Mark Fasheh
2008-10-23  9:59       ` steve
2008-10-23 10:21         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 10:52           ` steve
2008-10-23 11:07             ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 13:16   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 20:09     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:30   ` steve
2008-10-22 10:31   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 18:46     ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-22 20:19       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23  7:08       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 23:07     ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-23  7:07       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23  9:44         ` steve
2008-10-23 11:15           ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 22:48             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-24  1:05               ` Nick Piggin

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