From: steve@chygwyn.com
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: npiggin@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fs: improved handling of page and buffer IO errors
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:09:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081021150948.GB28279@fogou.chygwyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KsIHV-0006JW-65@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:32:21PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, steve@chygwyn.com
> > Once thats done, the dlm/glock is dropped (again notification is via
> > the dlm) and if Node A has outstanding requests queued up, it
> > re-requests the glock. This is a slightly simplified explanation
> > but, I hope it gives the general drift.
>
> Yes, thanks.
>
> > So to return to the original subject, in order to allow all
> > this locking to occur with no lock ordering problems, we have
> > to define a suitable ordering of page locks vs. glocks, and the
> > ordering that we use is that glocks must come before page locks. The
> > full ordering of locks in GFS2 is in Documentation/filesystems/gfs2-glocks.txt
> >
> > As a result of that, the VFS needs reads (and page_mkwrite) to
> > retry when !PageUptodate() in case the returned page has been
> > invalidated at any time when the page lock has been dropped.
>
> Since this commit PG_uptodate isn't cleared on invalidate:
>
> commit 84209e02de48d72289650cc5a7ae8dd18223620f
> Author: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>
> Date: Fri Aug 1 20:28:47 2008 +0200
>
> mm: dont clear PG_uptodate on truncate/invalidate
>
> Testing for !page->mapping, however, is a reliable way to detect both
> truncation and invalidation.
>
> So the page can have the following states:
>
> !PG_uptodate -> page has not been read
> PG_uptodate && page->mapping -> page has been read and is valid
> PG_uptodate && !page->mapping -> page has been read but no longer valid
>
> So PG_uptodate does not reflect the validity of the data, only whether
> the data was ever made up-to-date.
>
> Does this make sense? Should it be documented somewhere?
>
Well I'm not sure why we'd need to distinguish between "page has not been read"
and "page has been read but no longer valid". I guess I don't understand why
those two cases are not the same from the vfs and filesystem points of
view.
I'm sure it should be documented :-) it certainly seems confusing and if we
want to keep this scheme, can we change PG_uptodate to PG_wasread or
PG_usedonce or something like that which more clearly reflects its
purpose in that case,
Steve.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-21 15:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-21 11:21 Nick Piggin
2008-10-21 12:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 12:59 ` steve
2008-10-21 13:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 13:38 ` steve
2008-10-21 14:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 15:09 ` steve [this message]
2008-10-21 16:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 12:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 14:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 14:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-21 14:59 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:25 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 12:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 13:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 14:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23 13:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 22:23 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-10-23 9:59 ` steve
2008-10-23 10:21 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 10:52 ` steve
2008-10-23 11:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 13:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 20:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:30 ` steve
2008-10-22 10:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 18:46 ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-22 20:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 7:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 23:07 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-23 7:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 9:44 ` steve
2008-10-23 11:15 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 22:48 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-24 1:05 ` Nick Piggin
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