From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 1/5] memcg: replace res_counter
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:49:32 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081021104932.5115a077.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830810201829o5483ef48g633e920cce9cc015@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:29:28 -0700
"Paul Menage" <menage@google.com> wrote:
> How bad would things really be if you did something like the code below?
>
> if (charge_swap()) {
> uncharge_mem();
> } else {
> return -ENOMEM;
> }
Nitpick, charge_swap() has to always succeed (because mem+swap counter.
So,
BUG_ON(charge_swap());
or
charge_swap_and_uncharge_mem();
is necessary. Swap itself has no limit.
> > 3. We want to pack all member into a cache-line, multiple res_counter
> > is no good.
>
> As I said previously, if we do a prefetch on the aggregated
> res_counter before we touch any fields in the basic counter, then in
> theory we should never have to wait on a cache miss on the aggregated
> counter - either we have no misses (if both were in cache) or we fetch
> both lines concurrently (if neither were in cache). Do you think that
> reasoning is invalid?
res_counter's operation is very short.
take a lock => add and compare. => unlock.
So, I wonder there is not enough runway to do prefetch.
(Considering memcg, we can place 2 counters on a cacheline that by putting 2
counters on aligned line.)
> >
> >> Maybe have an "aggregate" pointer in a res_counter that points to
> >> another res_counter that sums some number of counters; both the mem
> >> and the swap res_counter objects for a cgroup would point to the
> >> mem+swap res_counter for their aggregate. Adjusting the usage of a
> >> counter would also adjust its aggregate (or fail if adjusting the
> >> aggregate failed).
> >>
> > It's complicated.
>
> Agreed, it's a bit more complicated than defining a new structure and
> code that's very reminiscent of res_counter. But it does solve the
> problem of aggregating across multiple resource types and multiple
> children in a generic way.
>
If you give me NACK, maybe I have to try that..
(But I believe aggregated child-parent counter will be verrrry slow.)
BTW, can we have *unsigned long* version of res_counter ?
memcg doesn't need *unsigned long long*.
And as another discussion, I'd like optimize res_counter by per_cpu.
This will be impossible with counters tied by pointer.
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-21 1:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-17 10:48 [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/5] mem+swap resource controller(trial patch) Daisuke Nishimura
2008-10-17 10:56 ` [PATCH -mm 1/5] memcg: replace res_counter Daisuke Nishimura
2008-10-20 19:53 ` Paul Menage
2008-10-21 1:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 1:29 ` Paul Menage
2008-10-21 1:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2008-10-21 2:15 ` Paul Menage
2008-10-21 2:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 2:20 ` Paul Menage
2008-10-21 3:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 6:30 ` Paul Menage
2008-10-21 5:30 ` Balbir Singh
2008-10-21 5:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 6:20 ` [memcg BUG] unable to handle kernel NULL pointer derefence at 00000000 Li Zefan
2008-10-21 6:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 6:28 ` Li Zefan
2008-10-21 6:38 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-10-21 6:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 7:04 ` Li Zefan
2008-10-21 7:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 7:21 ` Li Zefan
2008-10-21 8:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 8:34 ` Mel Gorman
2008-10-21 8:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 8:35 ` Li Zefan
2008-10-21 8:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 8:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 9:13 ` Li Zefan
2008-10-21 9:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 9:54 ` Li Zefan
2008-10-21 10:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 10:57 ` Li Zefan
2008-10-21 11:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 11:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 11:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 11:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-21 11:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 11:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-21 11:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 11:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-22 2:13 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-10-22 2:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 11:29 ` Balbir Singh
2008-10-21 11:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 12:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 12:14 ` Balbir Singh
2008-10-21 13:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 13:25 ` Balbir Singh
2008-10-21 13:34 ` Balbir Singh
2008-10-21 13:44 ` [memcg BUG] unable to handle kernel NULL pointer derefence at00000000 亀澤 寛之
2008-10-21 10:58 ` [memcg BUG] unable to handle kernel NULL pointer derefence at 00000000 Balbir Singh
2008-10-21 9:33 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-10-21 9:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-21 10:15 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-10-17 10:59 ` [PATCH -mm 2/5] memcg: mem_cgroup private ID Daisuke Nishimura
2008-10-17 11:01 ` [PATCH -mm 3/5] memcg: mem+swap controller Kconfig Daisuke Nishimura, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-17 11:04 ` [PATCH -mm 4/5] memcg: mem+swap counter Daisuke Nishimura
2008-10-17 11:06 ` [PATCH -mm 5/5] memcg: mem+swap accounting Daisuke Nishimura
2008-10-20 0:24 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/5] mem+swap resource controller(trial patch) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-20 2:53 ` Daisuke Nishimura
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