From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
jeremy@goop.org, arnd@arndb.de,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:17:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081009131701.GA21112@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1223557122.11830.14.camel@nimitz>
* Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:46 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > These patches implement basic checkpoint-restart [CR]. This version
> > > (v6) supports basic tasks with simple private memory, and open files
> > > (regular files and directories only). Changes mainly cleanups. See
> > > original announcements below.
> >
> > i'm wondering about the following productization aspect: it would be
> > very useful to applications and users if they knew whether it is safe to
> > checkpoint a given app. I.e. whether that app has any state that cannot
> > be stored/restored yet.
>
> Absolutely!
>
> My first inclination was to do this at checkpoint time: detect and
> tell users why an app or container can't actually be checkpointed.
> But, if I get you right, you're talking about something that happens
> more during the runtime of the app than during the checkpoint. This
> sounds like a wonderful approach to me, and much better than what I
> was thinking of.
>
> What kind of mechanism do you have in mind?
>
> int sys_remap_file_pages(...)
> {
> ...
> oh_crap_we_dont_support_this_yet(current);
> }
>
> Then the oh_crap..() function sets a task flag or something?
yeah, something like that. A key aspect of it is that is has to be very
low-key on the source code level - we dont want to sprinkle the kernel
with anything ugly. Perhaps something pretty explicit:
current->flags |= PF_NOCR;
as we do the same thing today for certain facilities:
current->flags |= PF_NOFREEZE;
you probably want to hide it behind:
set_current_nocr();
and have a set_task_nocr() as well, in case there's some proxy state
installed by another task.
Via such wrappers there's no overhead at all in the
!CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTART case.
Plus you could drive the debug mechanism via it as well, by using a
trivial extension of the facility:
set_current_nocr("CR: sys_remap_file_pages not supported yet.");
...
set_task_nocr(t, "CR: PI futexes not supported yet.");
Ingo
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-08 10:19 Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 1/9] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 2/9] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 3/9] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 10:21 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 10:24 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 4/9] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 5/9] Restore " Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 15:35 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 6/9] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 7/9] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 8/9] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 9/9] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 12:46 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 12:58 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:17 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-10-09 13:34 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 16:50 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 15:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-13 8:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-13 16:12 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-15 15:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-15 23:59 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-13 16:43 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-15 15:15 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-16 0:06 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 12:35 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-16 13:49 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 22:51 ` Peter Chubb
2008-10-17 6:30 ` David Newall
2008-10-20 17:17 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17 6:44 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-17 7:08 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 21:59 ` Greg Kurz
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