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From: Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>
To: akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
	hugh@veritas.com, menage@google.com, xemul@openvz.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page (v3)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:26:13 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080918.132613.74431429.taka@valinux.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080917184008.92b7fc4c.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Hi,

> > Before trying the sparsemem approach, I tried a radix tree per node,
> > per zone and I seemed to actually get some performance
> > improvement.(1.5% (noise maybe))
> > 
> > But please do see and review (tested on my x86_64 box with unixbench
> > and some other simple tests)
> > 
> > v4..v3
> > 1. Use a radix tree per node, per zone
> > 
> > v3...v2
> > 1. Convert flags to unsigned long
> > 2. Move page_cgroup->lock to a bit spin lock in flags
> > 
> > v2...v1
> > 
> > 1. Fix a small bug, don't call radix_tree_preload_end(), if preload fails
> > 
> > This is a rewrite of a patch I had written long back to remove struct page
> > (I shared the patches with Kamezawa, but never posted them anywhere else).
> > I spent the weekend, cleaning them up for 2.6.27-rc5-mmotm (29 Aug 2008).
> > 
> > I've tested the patches on an x86_64 box, I've run a simple test running
> > under the memory control group and the same test running concurrently under
> > two different groups (and creating pressure within their groups).
> > 
> > Advantages of the patch
> > 
> > 1. It removes the extra pointer in struct page
> > 
> > Disadvantages
> > 
> > 1. Radix tree lookup is not an O(1) operation, once the page is known
> >    getting to the page_cgroup (pc) is a little more expensive now.
> 
> Why are we doing this?  I can guess, but I'd rather not have to.

I think this design is just temporary and the goal is to pre-allocate
all page_cgroups at boot time if it isn't disabled.

But I think each memory model type should have its own way of managing
its page_cgroup arrays as doing for its struct page arrays.
It would be better rather than the sparsemem approach he said.

> a) It's slower.
> 
> b) It uses even more memory worst-case.
> 
> c) It uses less memory best-case.
> 
> someone somewhere decided that (Aa + Bb) / Cc < 1.0.  What are the values
> of A, B and C and where did they come from? ;)
> 
> (IOW, your changelog is in the category "sucky", along with 90% of the others)
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-18  4:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-31 17:47 [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  0:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  3:28   ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  4:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  5:17       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  6:16         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  6:09       ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  6:24         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  6:25           ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  6:59             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  6:56   ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-01  7:17     ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  7:19     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  7:43       ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-02  9:24         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:02           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02  9:58             ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:07               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 10:12                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:57                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 12:37                     ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-03  3:33                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-03  7:31                         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-08 15:28                         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09  3:57                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09  3:58                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09  4:53                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09  5:00                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09  5:12                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 12:24                                     ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09 12:28                                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09 12:30                                     ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-09-09 12:34                                       ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10  1:20                                       ` [Approach #2] " Balbir Singh
2008-09-10  1:49                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10  2:11                                           ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10  2:35                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 20:44                                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 11:03                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 21:02                                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 11:27                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 14:34                                                   ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 22:21                                         ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-10 22:31                                           ` David Miller, Dave Hansen
2008-09-10 22:36                                           ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 22:56                                             ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-11  1:35                                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-11  1:47                                                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-11  1:56                                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-17 23:28                                                     ` [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page (v3) Balbir Singh
2008-09-18  1:40                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-18  3:57                                                         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18  5:00                                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18  4:26                                                         ` Hirokazu Takahashi [this message]
2008-09-18  4:50                                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18  6:13                                                             ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-18  4:43                                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18  4:58                                                           ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18  5:15                                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 11:01                                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 23:56                                                               ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-19  0:37                                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 22:38                                           ` [Approach #2] [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page Nick Piggin
2008-09-09  4:18                             ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09  4:55                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09  7:37                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  2:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  3:42   ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  9:03 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-01  9:17   ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  9:43     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-01 13:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02  7:35       ` Balbir Singh

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