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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Yasunori Goto <y-goto@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Gary Hade <garyhade@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Chris McDermott <lcm@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RESEND] x86_64: add memory hotremove config option
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:52:49 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200809081552.50126.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080906085320.GE18288@one.firstfloor.org>

On Saturday 06 September 2008 18:53, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 04:06:38PM +0900, Yasunori Goto wrote:
> > > not.
> > >
> > > This means I don't see a real use case for this feature.
> >
> > I don't think its driver is almighty.
> > IIRC, balloon driver can be cause of fragmentation for 24-7 system.
>
> Sure the balloon driver can be likely improved too, it's just
> that I don't think a balloon driver should call into the function
> the original patch in the series hooked up.
>
> > In addition, I have heard that memory hotplug would be useful for
> > reducing of power consumption of DIMM.
>
> It's unclear that memory hotplug is the right model for DIMM power
> management. The problem is that DIMMs are interleaved, so you again have to
> completely free a quite large area. It's not much easier than node hotplug.
>
> > I have to admit that memory hotplug has many issues, but I would like to
>
> Let's call it "node" or "hardware" memory hot unplug, not that
> anyone confuses it with the easier VM based hot unplug or the really
> easy hotadd.
>
> > solve them step by step.
>
> The question is if they are even solvable in a useful way.
> I'm not sure it's that useful to start and then find out
> that it doesn't work anyways.

You use non-linear mappings for the kernel, so that kernel data is
not tied to a specific physical address. AFAIK, that is the only way
to really do it completely (like the fragmentation problem).

Of course, I don't think that would be a good idea to do that in the
forseeable future.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-08  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-05 17:21 Gary Hade
2008-09-05 17:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-05 18:14   ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-09-05 18:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-08 21:52       ` [PATCH] Cleanup to make remove_memory() arch neutral Badari Pulavarty
2008-09-09  0:56         ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-09  1:14           ` Randy Dunlap
2008-09-09  1:21           ` Yasunori Goto
2008-09-09 15:12             ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-09-08 21:56       ` [PATCH] x86: add memory hotremove config option Badari Pulavarty
2008-09-05 18:04 ` [PATCH] [RESEND] x86_64: " Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 18:31   ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-09-05 18:54     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 22:34       ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-09-05 19:53   ` Gary Hade
2008-09-05 20:04     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 21:54       ` Gary Hade
2008-09-06  0:01         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-06  7:06           ` Yasunori Goto
2008-09-06  8:53             ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-08  5:52               ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-09-08  9:36                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-08  9:46                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-08 10:30                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-08 11:19                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-08 11:30                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-08 13:48                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-06 14:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-06 16:00             ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-09-06 16:17               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-06 16:05             ` kamezawa.hiroyu

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