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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	hugh@veritas.com, menage@google.com, xemul@openvz.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:03:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080901130351.f005d5b6.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48BB6160.4070904@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:58:32 +0530
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:17:56 +0530
> > Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> This is a rewrite of a patch I had written long back to remove struct page
> >> (I shared the patches with Kamezawa, but never posted them anywhere else).
> >> I spent the weekend, cleaning them up for 2.6.27-rc5-mmotm (29 Aug 2008).
> >>
> > It's just because I think there is no strong requirements for 64bit count/mapcount.
> > There is no ZERO_PAGE() for ANON (by Nick Piggin. I add him to CC.)
> > (shmem still use it but impact is not big.)
> > 
> 
> I understand the comment, but not it's context. Are you suggesting that the
> sizeof _count and _mapcount can be reduced? Hence the impact of having a member
> in struct page is not all that large? I think the patch is definitely very
> important for 32 bit systems.
Maybe they cannot be reduced. For 32bit systems, if the machine doesn't equip
crazy amounts of memory (as 32GB) I don't think this 32bit is not very large.

Let's calculate. 1GB/4096 x 4 bytes = 1 MB per 1GB. 
But you adds spinlock_t, then what this patch reduce is not so big. Maybe only
hundreds of kilobytes. (All pages in HIGHMEM will be used with structpage_cgroup.)


> >> I've tested the patches on an x86_64 box, I've run a simple test running
> >> under the memory control group and the same test running concurrently under
> >> two different groups (and creating pressure within their groups). I've also
> >> compiled the patch with CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR turned off.
> >>
> >> Advantages of the patch
> >>
> >> 1. It removes the extra pointer in struct page
> >>
> >> Disadvantages
> >>
> >> 1. It adds an additional lock structure to struct page_cgroup
> >> 2. Radix tree lookup is not an O(1) operation, once the page is known
> >>    getting to the page_cgroup (pc) is a little more expensive now.
> >>
> >> This is an initial RFC for comments
> >>
> >> TODOs
> >>
> >> 1. Test the page migration changes
> >> 2. Test the performance impact of the patch/approach
> >>
> >> Comments/Reviews?
> >>
> > plz wait until lockless page cgroup....
> > 
> 
> That depends, if we can get the lockless page cgroup done quickly, I don't mind
> waiting, but if it is going to take longer, I would rather push these changes
> in. 
The development of lockless-page_cgroup is not stalled. I'm just waiting for
my 8cpu box comes back from maintainance...
If you want to see, I'll post v3 with brief result on small (2cpu) box.

> There should not be too much overhead in porting lockless page cgroup patch
> on top of this (remove pc->lock and use pc->flags). I'll help out, so as to
> avoid wastage of your effort.
> 
> > And If you don't support radix-tree-delete(), pre-allocating all at boot is better.
> > 
> 
> We do use radix-tree-delete() in the code, please see below. Pre-allocating has
> the disadvantage that we will pre-allocate even for kernel pages, etc.
> 
Sorry. I missed pc==NULL case.


> > BTW, why pc->lock is necessary ? It increases size of struct page_cgroup and reduce 
> > the advantege of your patch's to half (8bytes -> 4bytes).
> > 
> 
> Yes, I've mentioned that as a disadvantage. Are you suggesting that with
> lockless page cgroup we won't need pc->lock?
> 
Not so clear at this stage. 

Thanks,
-Kame



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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-01  4:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-31 17:47 Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  0:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  3:28   ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  4:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2008-09-01  5:17       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  6:16         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  6:09       ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  6:24         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  6:25           ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  6:59             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  6:56   ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-01  7:17     ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  7:19     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  7:43       ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-02  9:24         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:02           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02  9:58             ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:07               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 10:12                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:57                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 12:37                     ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-03  3:33                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-03  7:31                         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-08 15:28                         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09  3:57                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09  3:58                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09  4:53                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09  5:00                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09  5:12                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 12:24                                     ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09 12:28                                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09 12:30                                     ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-09-09 12:34                                       ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10  1:20                                       ` [Approach #2] " Balbir Singh
2008-09-10  1:49                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10  2:11                                           ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10  2:35                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 20:44                                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 11:03                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 21:02                                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 11:27                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 14:34                                                   ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 22:21                                         ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-10 22:31                                           ` David Miller, Dave Hansen
2008-09-10 22:36                                           ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 22:56                                             ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-11  1:35                                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-11  1:47                                                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-11  1:56                                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-17 23:28                                                     ` [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page (v3) Balbir Singh
2008-09-18  1:40                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-18  3:57                                                         ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18  5:00                                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18  4:26                                                         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-18  4:50                                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18  6:13                                                             ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-18  4:43                                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18  4:58                                                           ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18  5:15                                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 11:01                                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 23:56                                                               ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-19  0:37                                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 22:38                                           ` [Approach #2] [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page Nick Piggin
2008-09-09  4:18                             ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09  4:55                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09  7:37                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  2:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01  3:42   ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  9:03 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-01  9:17   ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01  9:43     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-01 13:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02  7:35       ` Balbir Singh

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