From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: ebmunson@us.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
libhugetlbfs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, abh@cray.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 0/5 V2] Huge page backed user-space stacks
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:31:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080731103137.GD1704@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080730130709.eb541475.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On (30/07/08 13:07), Andrew Morton didst pronounce:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:30:10 +0100
> Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
>
> > With Erics patch and libhugetlbfs, we can automatically back text/data[1],
> > malloc[2] and stacks without source modification. Fairly soon, libhugetlbfs
> > will also be able to override shmget() to add SHM_HUGETLB. That should cover
> > a lot of the memory-intensive apps without source modification.
>
> The weak link in all of this still might be the need to reserve
> hugepages and the unreliability of dynamically allocating them.
>
> The dynamic allocation should be better nowadays, but I've lost track
> of how reliable it really is. What's our status there?
>
We are a lot more reliable than we were although exact quantification is
difficult because it's workload dependent. For a long time, I've been able
to test bits and pieces with hugepages by allocating the pool at the time
I needed it even after days of uptime. Previously this required a reboot.
I've also been able to use the dynamic hugepage pool resizing effectively
and we track how much it is succeeding and failing in /proc/vmstat (see the
htlb fields) to watch for problems. Between that and /proc/pagetypeinfo, I am
expecting to be able to identify availablilty problems. As an administrator
can now set a minimum pool size and the maximum size of the pool (nr_hugepages
and nr_overcommit_hugepages), the configuration difficulties should be relaxed.
If it is found that anti-fragmentation can be broken down and pool
resizing starts failing after X amount of time on Y workloads, there is
still the option of using movablecore=BiggestPoolSizeIWillEverNeed
and writing 1 to /proc/sys/vm/hugepages_treat_as_movable so the hugepage
pool can grow/shrink reliably there.
Overall, it's in pretty good shape.
To be fair, one snag is that that swap is almost required for pool
resizing to work as I never pushed to complete memory compaction
(http://lwn.net/Articles/238837/). Hence, we depend on the workload to
have lots of filesystem-backed data for lumpy-reclaim to do its job, for
pool resizing to take place between batch jobs or for swap to be configured
even if it's just for the duration of a pool resize.
--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-28 19:17 Eric Munson
2008-07-28 19:17 ` [PATCH 1/5 V2] Align stack boundaries based on personality Eric Munson
2008-07-28 20:09 ` Dave Hansen
2008-07-28 19:17 ` [PATCH 2/5 V2] Add shared and reservation control to hugetlb_file_setup Eric Munson
2008-07-28 19:17 ` [PATCH 3/5] Split boundary checking from body of do_munmap Eric Munson
2008-07-28 19:17 ` [PATCH 4/5 V2] Build hugetlb backed process stacks Eric Munson
2008-07-28 20:37 ` Dave Hansen
2008-07-28 19:17 ` [PATCH 5/5 V2] [PPC] Setup stack memory segment for hugetlb pages Eric Munson
2008-07-28 20:33 ` [RFC] [PATCH 0/5 V2] Huge page backed user-space stacks Dave Hansen
2008-07-28 21:23 ` Eric B Munson
2008-07-30 8:41 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-30 15:04 ` Eric B Munson
2008-07-30 15:08 ` Eric B Munson
2008-07-30 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-30 17:23 ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-30 17:34 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-30 19:30 ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-30 19:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-30 20:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-31 10:31 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2008-08-04 21:10 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-05 11:11 ` Mel Gorman
2008-08-05 16:12 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-05 16:28 ` Mel Gorman
2008-08-05 17:53 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-06 9:02 ` Mel Gorman
2008-08-06 19:50 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 16:06 ` Mel Gorman
2008-08-07 17:29 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 8:04 ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-31 6:04 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-31 6:14 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-31 6:26 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-31 11:27 ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-31 11:51 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-31 13:50 ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-31 14:32 ` Michael Ellerman
2008-08-06 18:49 ` Andi Kleen
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