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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: + mm-remove-find_max_pfn_with_active_regions.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:15:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080728191518.GA5352@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86802c440807281125g7d424f17v4b7c512929f45367@mail.gmail.com>

On (28/07/08 11:25), Yinghai Lu didst pronounce:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> > On (28/07/08 04:15), Yinghai Lu didst pronounce:
> >> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> >> > On (27/07/08 20:13), akpm@linux-foundation.org didst pronounce:
> >> >>
> >> >> The patch titled
> >> >>      mm: remove find_max_pfn_with_active_regions
> >> >> has been added to the -mm tree.  Its filename is
> >> >>      mm-remove-find_max_pfn_with_active_regions.patch
> >> >>
> >> >> Before you just go and hit "reply", please:
> >> >>    a) Consider who else should be cc'ed
> >> >>    b) Prefer to cc a suitable mailing list as well
> >> >>    c) Ideally: find the original patch on the mailing list and do a
> >> >>       reply-to-all to that, adding suitable additional cc's
> >> >>
> >> >> *** Remember to use Documentation/SubmitChecklist when testing your code ***
> >> >>
> >> >> See http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/added-to-mm.txt to find
> >> >> out what to do about this
> >> >>
> >> >> The current -mm tree may be found at http://userweb.kernel.org/~akpm/mmotm/
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Subject: mm: remove find_max_pfn_with_active_regions
> >> >> From: Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> It has no user now
> >> >>
> >> >> Also print out info about adding/removing active regions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
> >> >> Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> >> >> ---
> >> >>
> >> >>  include/linux/mm.h |    1 -
> >> >>  mm/page_alloc.c    |   22 ++--------------------
> >> >>  2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
> >> >>
> >> >> diff -puN include/linux/mm.h~mm-remove-find_max_pfn_with_active_regions include/linux/mm.h
> >> >> --- a/include/linux/mm.h~mm-remove-find_max_pfn_with_active_regions
> >> >> +++ a/include/linux/mm.h
> >> >> @@ -1041,7 +1041,6 @@ extern unsigned long absent_pages_in_ran
> >> >>  extern void get_pfn_range_for_nid(unsigned int nid,
> >> >>                       unsigned long *start_pfn, unsigned long *end_pfn);
> >> >>  extern unsigned long find_min_pfn_with_active_regions(void);
> >> >> -extern unsigned long find_max_pfn_with_active_regions(void);
> >> >>  extern void free_bootmem_with_active_regions(int nid,
> >> >>                                               unsigned long max_low_pfn);
> >> >>  typedef int (*work_fn_t)(unsigned long, unsigned long, void *);
> >> >> diff -puN mm/page_alloc.c~mm-remove-find_max_pfn_with_active_regions mm/page_alloc.c
> >> >> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c~mm-remove-find_max_pfn_with_active_regions
> >> >> +++ a/mm/page_alloc.c
> >> >> @@ -3572,8 +3572,7 @@ void __init add_active_range(unsigned in
> >> >>  {
> >> >>       int i;
> >> >>
> >> >> -     mminit_dprintk(MMINIT_TRACE, "memory_register",
> >> >> -                     "Entering add_active_range(%d, %#lx, %#lx) "
> >> >> +     printk(KERN_INFO "Adding active range (%d, %#lx, %#lx) "
> >> >>                       "%d entries of %d used\n",
> >> >>                       nid, start_pfn, end_pfn,
> >> >>                       nr_nodemap_entries, MAX_ACTIVE_REGIONS);
> >> >
> >> > Why are the mminit_dprintk() calls being converted to printk(KERN_INFO)?  On
> >> > some machines, this will be very noisy. For example, some POWER configurations
> >> > will print out one line for every 16MB of memory with this patch.
> >>
> >> I don't know, on x86 esp the first node, that is some informative.
> >> or change that back to printk(KERN_DEBUG) ?
> >>
> >> hope the user put debug on command_line to get enough info.
> >>
> >> otherwise without "mminit_loglevel=" will get that debug info.
> >>
> >
> > It's the type of information that is only useful when debugging memory
> > initialisation problems. The more friendly information can be found at
> > the lines starting with
> >
> > early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
> >
> > and this is already logged. The fact that mminit_loglevel needs loglevel
> > needs to be at KERN_DEBUG level is already documented for the mminit_loglevel=
> > parameter. I still am not convinced that these needs to be logged at
> > KERN_INFO level.
> 
> I hope: when ask user to append "debug" we can get enough debug info
> without other extra ...
> 

I disagree. The memory init output is very verbose, which is why the
mminit_debug framework was made quiet by default.  In the event it is useful,
it is because memory initialisation broken and at that point, it's simple
enough to request the user to add the necessary options. It shouldn't be
visible by default. This is similar in principal to acpi.debug_level for
example.

Perhaps we are going about this the wrong way, why do you want it to be
visible so easily? My expectation is that the information is only useful
when memory inialisation is failing but maybe you have another use in mind.

> and then if want add-on spew info, could ask them to append
> initcall_debug, mminit_debug.
> 
> current "mminit_loglevel is default to 0 " doesn't look reasonable, it
> hide some info when we could get if append "debug" only that we got
> for years.
> 

Not years, this information being available at all is relatively recent.
Arch-independent zone sizing (that prints this) is only there since
2.6.24 I think. There are also other subsystems (like ACPI) that only
output more debug information when specifically requested.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-28 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200807280313.m6S3DHDk017400@imap1.linux-foundation.org>
2008-07-28  9:16 ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-28 11:15   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-28 11:38     ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-28 18:25       ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-28 19:15         ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2008-07-28 19:38           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-28 20:00             ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-28 20:14               ` Yinghai Lu
2008-07-28 20:40                 ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-28 20:55                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-28 21:16                     ` Mel Gorman
2008-07-28 21:24                   ` Yinghai Lu

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