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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, steiner@sgi.com,
	cl@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: MMU notifiers review and some proposals
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:16:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080726131651.GB9598@duo.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080726130406.GA21820@wotan.suse.de>

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 03:04:06PM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 01:38:13PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > 
> > 1) absolute minimal intrusion into the kernel common code, and
> >    absolute minimum number of branches added to the kernel fast
> >    paths. Kernel is faster than your "minimal" type of notifiers when
> >    they're disarmed.
> 
> BTW. is this really significant? Having one branch per pte
> I don't think is necessarily slower than 2 branches per unmap.
> 
> The 2 branches will use more icache and more branch history. One
> branch even once per pte in the unmapping loop is going to remain
> hot in icache and branch history isn't it?

Even if branch-predicted and icached, it's still more executable to
compute in a tight loop. Even if quick it'll accumulate cycles. Said
that perhaps you're right that my point 1 wasn't that important or not
a tangible positive, but surely doing a secondary mmu invalidate for
each pte zapped isn't ideal... that's the whole point of the
tlb-gather logic, nobody wants to do that not even for the primary
tlb, and surely not for the secondary-mmu that may not even be as fast
as the primary-tlb at invalidating. Hence the very simple patch is
clearly inferior when they're armed (if only equivalent when they're
disarmed)...

I think we can argue once you've reduced the frequency of the
secondary mmu invalidates of a factor of 500 by mangling over the tlb
gather logic per-arch.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-26 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-24 14:39 Nick Piggin
2008-07-25 21:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-26  3:08   ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 11:38     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-26 12:28       ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:02         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-26 13:10           ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:35             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-27 12:25               ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:14           ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:49             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-27 12:32               ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-30 14:19             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-30 14:54               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-30 15:42                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-31  6:14                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-31 14:19                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-26 12:33       ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:04       ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:16         ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-07-27 12:08           ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-25 23:29 ` Jack Steiner
2008-07-26  3:18   ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-27  9:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-27 12:38   ` Nick Piggin

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