From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, steiner@sgi.com,
cl@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: MMU notifiers review and some proposals
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:16:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080726131651.GB9598@duo.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080726130406.GA21820@wotan.suse.de>
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 03:04:06PM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 01:38:13PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> >
> > 1) absolute minimal intrusion into the kernel common code, and
> > absolute minimum number of branches added to the kernel fast
> > paths. Kernel is faster than your "minimal" type of notifiers when
> > they're disarmed.
>
> BTW. is this really significant? Having one branch per pte
> I don't think is necessarily slower than 2 branches per unmap.
>
> The 2 branches will use more icache and more branch history. One
> branch even once per pte in the unmapping loop is going to remain
> hot in icache and branch history isn't it?
Even if branch-predicted and icached, it's still more executable to
compute in a tight loop. Even if quick it'll accumulate cycles. Said
that perhaps you're right that my point 1 wasn't that important or not
a tangible positive, but surely doing a secondary mmu invalidate for
each pte zapped isn't ideal... that's the whole point of the
tlb-gather logic, nobody wants to do that not even for the primary
tlb, and surely not for the secondary-mmu that may not even be as fast
as the primary-tlb at invalidating. Hence the very simple patch is
clearly inferior when they're armed (if only equivalent when they're
disarmed)...
I think we can argue once you've reduced the frequency of the
secondary mmu invalidates of a factor of 500 by mangling over the tlb
gather logic per-arch.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-26 13:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-24 14:39 Nick Piggin
2008-07-25 21:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-26 3:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 11:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-26 12:28 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-26 13:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-27 12:25 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-27 12:32 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-30 14:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-30 14:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-30 15:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-31 6:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-31 14:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-26 12:33 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:04 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-07-27 12:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-25 23:29 ` Jack Steiner
2008-07-26 3:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-27 9:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-27 12:38 ` Nick Piggin
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