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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, andrea@qumranet.com,
	cl@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: MMU notifiers review and some proposals
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:18:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080726031858.GB18896@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080725232907.GA243187@sgi.com>

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 06:29:09PM -0500, Jack Steiner wrote:
> > 
> > I also think we should be cautious to make this slowpath so horribly
> > slow. For KVM it's fine, but perhaps for GRU we'd actually want to
> > register quite a lot of notifiers, unregister them, and perhaps even
> > do per-vma registrations if we don't want to slow down other memory
> > management operations too much (eg. if it is otherwise just some
> > regular processes just doing accelerated things with GRU).
> 
> I can't speak for other possible users of the mmu notifier mechanism
> but the GRU will only register a single notifier for a process.
> The notifier is registered when the GRU is opened and (currently)
> unregistered when the GRU is closed.
> 
> If a task opens multiple GRUs (quite possible for threaded apps), all
> shared the same notifier. Regardless of the number of threads/opens,
> there will be a single notifier. 

OK, sure, but you might have a lot of processes opening the GRU, no?
(I'm not sure how it is exactly going to be used, but if you have a
number of GRU units per blade...)

So you have a machine with 4096 CPUs, and maybe 4096 processes that
each have to lock the mapping of exec, glibc, pthreads, grulib, etc
etc.

Or you might have a situation where many short lived processes do
some operating on GRU.

Anyway, I won't dispute your data point (thanks for that), but still
noting that a very heavy registration is obviously less desirable
than a faster one, all else being equal...

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-26  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-24 14:39 Nick Piggin
2008-07-25 21:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-26  3:08   ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 11:38     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-26 12:28       ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:02         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-26 13:10           ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:35             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-27 12:25               ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:14           ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:49             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-27 12:32               ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-30 14:19             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-30 14:54               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-30 15:42                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-31  6:14                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-31 14:19                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-26 12:33       ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:04       ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-26 13:16         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-27 12:08           ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-25 23:29 ` Jack Steiner
2008-07-26  3:18   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-07-27  9:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-27 12:38   ` Nick Piggin

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