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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"xemul@openvz.org" <xemul@openvz.org>,
	"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	"yamamoto@valinux.co.jp" <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	"hugh@veritas.com" <hugh@veritas.com>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][-mm] [0/7] misc memcg patch set
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:38:23 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080711173823.02e2eee8.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080702210322.518f6c43.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:03:22 +0900
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:

> Hi, it seems vmm-related bugs in -mm is reduced to some safe level.
> I restarted my patches for memcg.
> 
> This mail is just for dumping patches on my stack.
> (I'll resend one by one later.)
> 
> based on 2.6.26-rc5-mm3
> + kosaki's fixes + cgroup write_string set + Hugh Dickins's fixes for shmem
> (All patches are in -mm queue.)
> 
> Any comments are welcome (but 7/7 patch is not so neat...)
> 
> [1/7] swapcache handle fix for shmem.
> [2/7] adjust to split-lru: remove PAGE_CGROUP_FLAG_CACHE flag. 
> [3/7] adjust to split-lru: push shmem's page to active list
>       (Imported from Hugh Dickins's work.)
> [4/7] reduce usage at change limit. res_counter part.
> [5/7] reduce usage at change limit. memcg part.
> [6/7] memcg-background-job.           res_coutner part
> [7/7] memcg-background-job            memcg part.
> 
> Balbir, I'd like to import your idea of soft-limit to memcg-background-job
> patch set. (Maybe better than adding hooks to very generic part.)

Hmm, Andrew Morton suggested me that "please do it in user-land..don't make 
the kernel more complex.".

Maybe not difficult..

Current my idea is adding following file.

 - memory.shrink_usage
   echo 20M > memory.shirnk_usage will try to shrink uage to limit-20M.
   If it took too long time, return -EBUSY.

 - memory.exceed_thresh
 - memory.threash_notifier
   notifier is triggered when the usage exceeds memory.excheed_thresh
   (Yes I may be able to rename this to soft_limit_thresh.)

 Writing a daemon or command to kick memory.shrink_usage is not so difficult.

any idea or comments ?

Thanks,
-Kame



> How do you think ?
> 
> Other patches in plan (including other guy's)
> - soft-limit (Balbir works.)
>   I myself think memcg-background-job patches can copperative with this.
> 
> - dirty_ratio for memcg. (haven't written at all)
>   Support dirty_ratio for memcg. This will improve OOM avoidance.
> 
> - swapiness for memcg (had patches..but have to rewrite.)
>   Support swapiness per memcg. (of no use ?)
> 
> - swap_controller (Maybe Nishimura works on.)
>   The world may change after this...cgroup without swap can appears easily.
> 
> - hierarchy (needs more discussion. maybe after OLS?)
>   have some pathes, but not in hurry.
> 
> - more performance improvements (we need some trick.)
>   = Can we remove lock_page_cgroup() ?
>   = Can we reduce spinlocks ?
> 
> - move resource at task move (needs helps from cgroup)
>   We need some magical way. It seems impossible to implement this only by memcg.
> 
> - NUMA statistics (needs helps from cgroup)
>   It seems dynamic file creation feature or some rule to show array of
>   statistics should be defined.
> 
> - memory guarantee (soft-mlock.)
>   guard parameter against global LRU for saying "Don't reclaim from me more ;("
>   Maybe HA Linux people will want this....
> 
> Do you have others ?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-11  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-02 12:03 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-02 12:07 ` [RFC][-mm] [1/7] shmem swapcache fix KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-02 12:08 ` [RFC][-mm] [2/7] delete FLAG_CACHE KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-02 12:10 ` [RFC][-mm] [3/7] add shmem page to active list KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03  0:11   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03  4:27     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03  7:03       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-07-03  7:43         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03 22:28           ` Hugh Dickins
2008-07-04  0:47             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-02 12:12 ` [RFC][-mm] [4/7] handle limit change KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-02 12:13 ` [RFC][-mm] [5/7] reduce usage at " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-02 12:15 ` [RFC][-mm] [6/7] res_counter distance to limit KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-02 19:19   ` Paul Menage
2008-07-02 23:57     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-02 12:17 ` [RFC][-mm] [7/7] background job for memcg KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-02 14:23 ` [RFC][-mm] [0/7] misc memcg patch set Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-02 16:31   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-02 23:56   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03  2:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03  3:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03  9:07 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-03  9:54   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-11  8:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]

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