From: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
cl@linux-foundation.org, akpm@osdl.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de,
holt@sgi.com, andrea@qumranet.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch 12/13] GRU Driver V3 - export is_uv_system(), zap_page_range() & follow_page()
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:29:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080707192923.GA32706@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080707115844.5ee43343@infradead.org>
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 11:58:44AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:29:54 +0100 (BST)
> Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Jack Steiner wrote:
> > > > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(follow_page);
> > > >
> > > > NACK.
> > > >
> > > > These should never be called by a driver and suggest you need to
> > > > rething your VM integration in this driver.
> > >
> > > Can you provide some additional details on the type of kernel API
> > > that could be exported to provide a pte lookup in atomic context?
> >
> > I don't see EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(follow_page) as objectionable myself:
> > it rather seems rather to complement EXPORT_SYMBOL(vm_insert_page)
> > and EXPORT_SYMBOL(vmalloc_to_page); though I'd agree that it's
> > sufficiently sensitive to need that _GPL on it.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > Currently, the driver calls follow_page() in interrupt context.
> >
> > However, that's a problem, isn't it, given the pte_offset_map_lock
> > in follow_page? To avoid the possibility of deadlock, wouldn't we
> > have to change all the page table locking to irq-disabling variants?
> > Which I think we'd have reason to prefer not to do.
> >
> > Maybe study the assumptions Nick is making in his arch/x86/mm/gup.c
> > in mm, and do something similar in your GRU driver (falling back to
> > the slow method when anything's not quite right). It's not nice to
> > have such code out in a driver, but GRU is going to be exceptional,
> > and it may be better to have it out there than pretence of generality
> > in the core mm exporting it.
> >
>
> I wonder if GRU even should be a module; it sounds rather like pretty
> core functionality and if it's this invasive to the VM it probably
> should be a real part of the VM instead
The GRU is not actually very invasive into the VM. It will use the
new MMU-notifier callbacks. Aside from the need to translate
virt->physical & zap ptes belonging to the GRU, it works fine as a module.
No other core changes are needed.
An additional advantage in keeping it as a module is that I expect it
to under a number of changes as the hardware matures. It is easier to
update the GRU if it is a module.
--- jack
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-07 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20080703213348.489120321@attica.americas.sgi.com>
[not found] ` <20080703213633.890647632@attica.americas.sgi.com>
[not found] ` <20080704073926.GA1449@infradead.org>
2008-07-07 14:39 ` Jack Steiner
2008-07-07 14:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-07 16:29 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-07-07 16:53 ` Jack Steiner
2008-07-08 2:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-09 19:11 ` Jack Steiner
2008-07-10 7:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-10 13:29 ` Jack Steiner
2008-07-10 14:21 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-10 16:33 ` Jack Steiner
2008-07-10 16:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-10 17:20 ` Jack Steiner
2008-07-11 3:30 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-07 18:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-07 19:29 ` Jack Steiner [this message]
2008-07-07 21:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-07 17:58 ` Jack Steiner
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20080707192923.GA32706@sgi.com \
--to=steiner@sgi.com \
--cc=akpm@osdl.org \
--cc=andrea@qumranet.com \
--cc=arjan@infradead.org \
--cc=cl@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=hch@infradead.org \
--cc=holt@sgi.com \
--cc=hugh@veritas.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=mingo@elte.hu \
--cc=nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox