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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Cc: jeff@garzik.org, dwmw2@infradead.org, andi@firstfloor.org,
	tytso@mit.edu, hugh@veritas.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, mchan@broadcom.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin"
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:48:32 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:30:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080707.134832.189558582.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080707193008.17795d61@the-village.bc.nu>

> I don't see why it should be David's job to add every conceivable feature
> to the code.

David's changes prevent something from working, which works today.

Usually we refer to that as a regression.

And usually, we rely on the patch author to fix regressions they add,
and failing that we revert their work.

Bringing up this SATA scarecrow and trying to make Jeff look
inconsistent is not winning your arguments any extra points.
Especially not with me.

You also mentioned something about how similar arguments as ours
were made when modules were proposed as a feature.  Well, I can
say only two things about that:

1) I could still build a static kernel image and use it as-is after
   the changes to support modules were added to the kernel.  In fact I
   still largely do not use modules at all during my own kernel work.

   This is completely unlike what David is doing here, where the
   previous status quo will cease working.

2) You cannot deny the fine mess we have with proprietary modules and
   such these days.  It has been quite the pandora's box over time.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-07 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-03  9:02 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 11:22 ` [BUILD-FAILURE] 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - build failure at drivers/char/hvc_rtas.c Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-03 11:59 ` [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-03 12:21   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:04     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-07-03 13:11       ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:33         ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 13:38           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:52             ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 17:30               ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-03 18:56                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 19:31                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-07-03 19:49                     ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 20:52                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:03                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 21:33                     ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:42                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:43                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:52                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:54                             ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 22:27                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 22:22                       ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 22:25                         ` Alan Cox
2008-07-03 23:14                           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 23:02                             ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04  2:31                           ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-07-03 23:21                   ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04  0:18                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04  1:09                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04  1:47                         ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04  0:24                     ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04  1:28                       ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04  2:42                       ` david
2008-07-04 10:07                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 10:09                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 13:10                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:15                           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:27                             ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:39                               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:27                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 13:48                                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:06                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 20:43                                   ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-04 21:04                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 20:17                                       ` david
2008-07-06 20:27                                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 20:51                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 20:52                                           ` david
2008-07-06 20:56                                             ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 21:03                                               ` david
2008-07-06 21:38                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 22:10                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 23:22                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05  6:05                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 17:52                                     ` Rick Jones
2008-07-04 13:46                                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:07                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:38                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 23:40                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 15:53                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 17:24                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:13                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 18:57                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:30                                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 19:16                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:45                                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 19:48                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 20:48                                                   ` David Miller, Alan Cox [this message]
2008-07-07 20:42                                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:45                                                       ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:14                                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:58                                                           ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-08  6:36                                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-07-08  8:57                                                               ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-04 14:30                                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:37                                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 18:01                                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:28                                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-07-05  4:35                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 20:39                                 ` David Miller, Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:10                               ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:23                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:39                                   ` Hannes Reinecke
2008-07-04 14:42                                     ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:34                                       ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 22:08                                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 23:13                                       ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-04 23:58                                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05  0:51                                           ` Trent Piepho
2008-07-05  3:52                                             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05  6:01                                               ` Bill Fink
2008-07-05 13:08                                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05  4:10                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05  7:41                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-05  8:50                                           ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 10:53                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 11:22                                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:02                                               ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 12:09                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:16                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 12:23                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:42                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 13:57                                                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 14:44                                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 15:10                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 17:13                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 20:55                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 10:02                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-06 10:55                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 11:50                                                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-06 12:22                                                               ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:44                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:24                                 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:36                                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-05 10:26                                     ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:31                                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:37                               ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:42                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 20:43                                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:52                                     ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:05                                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05  4:05                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-07-04 20:51                                   ` David Miller, Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 20:59                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 21:12                                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:10                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 20:53                                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05  4:04                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:42                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 20:34         ` David Miller, Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 20:54           ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-09 20:43             ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-07-04 11:06       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 13:17         ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:26           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 13:28             ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:42             ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:45               ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:10                 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:13                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05  6:14                     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:28           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 16:10   ` Chuck Lever
2008-07-03 14:26 ` WARNING at acpi/.../utmisc.c:1043 [Was: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1] Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 14:38   ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 15:24     ` Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 23:35 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1--No e100 :( logs say missing formware Grant Coady
2008-07-04  0:40   ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 23:42 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1--No e100 :( logs say missing firmware Grant Coady
2008-07-04  2:48 ` Question: split-lur // Re: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04  9:02 ` memcg: lru scan fix (Was: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 19:16   ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-04 19:24     ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-05  3:59       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04  9:09 ` [PATCH] memcg: handle shmem's swap cache (Was 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05  5:41   ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-05  6:11     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05  6:49       ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-05  8:16       ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-04 22:49 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1: unable to mount nfs shares Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-07-04 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-08 14:42 ` [BUG] 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - sleeping function called from invalid context at include/linux/pagemap.h:291 Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-12  7:15   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-09 21:33 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - Missing AC97 power save Kconfig? Zan Lynx
2008-07-09 22:05   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-09 22:34     ` Zan Lynx
2008-07-05  5:49 [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" Jaswinder Singh
2008-07-05  6:37 Jaswinder Singh

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