From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
To: Bill Fink <billfink@mindspring.com>
Cc: Trent Piepho <tpiepho@freescale.com>,
Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
hugh@veritas.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, mchan@broadcom.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin"
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:08:45 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080705130845.GA23069@khazad-dum.debian.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080705020124.ac73e979.billfink@mindspring.com>
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008, Bill Fink wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Fri, 04 Jul 2008, Trent Piepho wrote:
> > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 05 Jul 2008, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> > > >> Won't that break multiple kernel installs on any binary packaging
> > > >> system that cares about file collisions? Multiple kernel rpms
> > > >> providing the same /lib/firmware files would break things wouldn't
> > > >> they ?
> > > >
> > > > We will probably need per-kernel directories, exactly like what is done for
> > > > modules. And since there are (now) both kernel-version-specific, and
> > > > non-kernel-version-specific firmware, this means the firmware loader should
> > > > look first on the version-specific directory (say, /lib/firmware/$(uname
> > > > -r)/), then if not found, on the general directory (/lib/firmware).
> > >
> > > How about /lib/modules/`uname -r`/firmware
> >
> > I am fine with it, it certainly has a few advantages.
>
> Why not put it in the same /lib/modules directory as the foo.ko
> kernel module itself? Then those who like to scp kernel modules
> around (which I've done myself on occasion) just need to learn
> to scp foo.* instead of foo.ko. Why replicate a separate
> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/firmware directory?
Because a single new directory tree is easier, simpler, and less prone to
breakage to implement. This thing is way too complicated already, and
that's not good for something that must ALWAYS work right. Also, it doesn't
assume any sort of mapping between the firmware files and their users (so,
it won't ADD constraints to the firmware loading API that do not exist right
now). And it lets you version or un-version firmware files (if you *want*,
and in in *every* case), very easily, and without breaking the current ABI
(/lib/firmware/).
If I were to attempt to address your use case properly, I'd do it by
exporting the firmware dependency information on module metadata, and
add/modify userspace to tell you about it. This would let you do "scp
$(findmoduledeps --include-self themodule) foo:/tmp" and get the module, its
firmware files, its dependencies, the dependencies' firmware, and so on, so
that you'd get the entire module stack and all the firmware for the stack.
Or whatever else you want "findmoduledeps" to do, the required data would be
there for the tool to be quite versatile.
But I have zero interest on firmware loading, and I am currently taking care
of more kernel work than what I am confortable with already, so someone else
would have to do it. There are probably even better ways than the simple
one I described above, I bet...
--
"One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
Henrique Holschuh
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Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-03 9:02 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 11:22 ` [BUILD-FAILURE] 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - build failure at drivers/char/hvc_rtas.c Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-03 11:59 ` [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-03 12:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-07-03 13:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 13:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 17:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-03 18:56 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 19:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-07-03 19:49 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 20:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 21:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 22:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 22:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-03 23:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 23:02 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 2:31 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-07-03 23:21 ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 0:18 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 1:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 1:47 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 0:24 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 1:28 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 2:42 ` david
2008-07-04 10:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 10:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 13:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:27 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 13:48 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 20:43 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-04 21:04 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 20:17 ` david
2008-07-06 20:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 20:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 20:52 ` david
2008-07-06 20:56 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 21:03 ` david
2008-07-06 21:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 22:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 23:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 6:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 17:52 ` Rick Jones
2008-07-04 13:46 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:38 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 23:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 17:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:13 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 18:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:30 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 19:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 20:48 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-07 20:42 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:45 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:14 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:58 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-08 6:36 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-08 8:57 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-04 14:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 18:01 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:28 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-07-05 4:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 20:39 ` David Miller, Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:10 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:23 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:39 ` Hannes Reinecke
2008-07-04 14:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:34 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 22:08 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 23:13 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-04 23:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 0:51 ` Trent Piepho
2008-07-05 3:52 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 6:01 ` Bill Fink
2008-07-05 13:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [this message]
2008-07-05 4:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 7:41 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-05 8:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 10:53 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 11:22 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:02 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 12:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:16 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 12:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 13:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 14:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 15:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 17:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 20:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 10:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-06 10:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 11:50 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-06 12:22 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:24 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:36 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-05 10:26 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:31 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:37 ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 20:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:52 ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:05 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 4:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-07-04 20:51 ` David Miller, Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 20:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 21:12 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:10 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 20:53 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 4:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 20:34 ` David Miller, Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 20:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-09 20:43 ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-07-04 11:06 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 13:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:26 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 13:28 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:45 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:13 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 6:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 16:10 ` Chuck Lever
2008-07-03 14:26 ` WARNING at acpi/.../utmisc.c:1043 [Was: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1] Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 14:38 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 15:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 23:35 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1--No e100 :( logs say missing formware Grant Coady
2008-07-04 0:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 23:42 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1--No e100 :( logs say missing firmware Grant Coady
2008-07-04 2:48 ` Question: split-lur // Re: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 9:02 ` memcg: lru scan fix (Was: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 19:16 ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-04 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-05 3:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 9:09 ` [PATCH] memcg: handle shmem's swap cache (Was 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05 5:41 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-05 6:11 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05 6:49 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-05 8:16 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-04 22:49 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1: unable to mount nfs shares Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-07-04 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-08 14:42 ` [BUG] 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - sleeping function called from invalid context at include/linux/pagemap.h:291 Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-12 7:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-09 21:33 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - Missing AC97 power save Kconfig? Zan Lynx
2008-07-09 22:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-09 22:34 ` Zan Lynx
2008-07-05 5:49 [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" Jaswinder Singh
2008-07-05 6:37 Jaswinder Singh
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