From: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
IKEDA Munehiro <m-ikeda@ds.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 5/5] swapcgroup (v3): implement force_empty
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 21:33:01 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080704213301.7d476941.nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080704191638.b63892f5.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:16:38 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:24:23 +0900
> Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> wrote:
>
> > This patch implements force_empty of swapcgroup.
> >
> > Currently, it simply uncharges all the charges from the group.
> >
> > I think there can be other implementations.
> >
> > What I thought are:
> > - move all the charges to its parent.
> > - unuse(swap in) all the swap charged to the group.
> >
> 3. move all swap back to memory (see swapoff.)
>
>
Do you mean swapping in all the swap including used by
other groups?
It would be one choice anyway.
> > But in any case, I think before implementing this way,
> > hierarchy and move charges support are needed.
> >
> > So I think this is enough for the first step.
> >
>
> I don't think hierarchy/automatic-load-balancer for swap cg is necessary.
It's the problem of how the "hierarchy" would be, I think.
I'm saying "hierarchy" here just to mean "some kind of feature
where a parent includes their children".
I think "hierarchy" is needed if we implement the choice 1 above,
and I personally think it would be the best choice.
> Hmm...but handling limit_change (at least, returns -EBUSY) will be necessary.
I think so too.
But I'm not sure now it's good or bad to support shrinking at limit_change
about swap.
Shrinking swap means increasing the memory usage and that may cause
another swapout.
> Do you consider a some magical way to move pages in swap back to memory ?
>
In this patch, I modified the find_next_to_unuse() to find
the entry charged to a specific group.
It might be possible to modify try_to_unuse()(or define another function
based on try_to_unuse()) to reduce swap usage of a specified group
down to some threashold.
But, I think, one problem here is from which device the swaps
should be back to memory, or usage balance between swap devices.
> In general, I like this set but we can't change the limit on demand. (maybe)
> (just putting it to TO-DO-List is okay to me.)
>
I'm sorry but what do you mean by "change the limit on demand"?
Could you explain more?
Thanks,
Daisuke Nishimura.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-04 12:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-04 6:15 [PATCH -mm 0/5] swapcgroup (v3) Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 6:17 ` [PATCH -mm 1/5] swapcgroup (v3): add cgroup files Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-10 20:35 ` Dave Hansen
2008-07-11 11:02 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 6:18 ` [PATCH -mm 2/5] swapcgroup (v3): add a member to swap_info_struct Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 6:20 ` [PATCH -mm 3/5] swapcgroup (v3): implement charge and uncharge Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 6:22 ` [PATCH -mm 4/5] swapcgroup (v3): modify vm_swap_full() Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 9:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 10:40 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 6:24 ` [PATCH -mm 5/5] swapcgroup (v3): implement force_empty Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 6:54 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-07-04 7:26 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 7:48 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-07-04 7:56 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 10:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 12:33 ` Daisuke Nishimura [this message]
2008-07-05 4:29 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-07 6:23 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-04 9:40 ` [PATCH -mm 0/5] swapcgroup (v3) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 10:58 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-07-05 6:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-07 6:48 ` Daisuke Nishimura
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