From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Cc: jeff@garzik.org, dwmw2@infradead.org, andi@firstfloor.org,
tytso@mit.edu, hugh@veritas.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, mchan@broadcom.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin"
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:27:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080704.134329.209642254.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080704142753.27848ff8@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
> There are good sound reasons for having a firmware tree, the fact tg3 is
> a bit of dinosaur in this area doesn't make it wrong.
And bnx2, and bnx2x, and e100's ucode (hope David caught that one!).
It isn't just tg3.
External firmware is by design an error prone system, even with
versioning. But by being built and linked into the driver, it
is fool proof.
On a technical basis alone, we would never disconnect a crucial
component such as firmware, from the driver. The only thing
charging these transoformations, from day one, is legal concerns.
I've been against request_firmware() from the beginning, because
they make life unnecessarily difficult, and it is error prone no
matter how well you design the validation step.
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Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-03 9:02 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 11:22 ` [BUILD-FAILURE] 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - build failure at drivers/char/hvc_rtas.c Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-03 11:59 ` [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-03 12:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-07-03 13:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 13:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 17:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-03 18:56 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 19:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-07-03 19:49 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 20:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 21:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 22:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 22:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-03 23:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 23:02 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 2:31 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-07-03 23:21 ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 0:18 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 1:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 1:47 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 0:24 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 1:28 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 2:42 ` david
2008-07-04 10:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 10:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 13:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:27 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 13:48 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 20:43 ` David Miller, Alan Cox [this message]
2008-07-04 21:04 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 20:17 ` david
2008-07-06 20:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 20:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 20:52 ` david
2008-07-06 20:56 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 21:03 ` david
2008-07-06 21:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 22:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 23:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 6:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 17:52 ` Rick Jones
2008-07-04 13:46 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:38 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 23:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 17:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:13 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 18:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:30 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 19:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 20:48 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-07 20:42 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:45 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:14 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:58 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-08 6:36 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-08 8:57 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-04 14:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 18:01 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:28 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-07-05 4:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 20:39 ` David Miller, Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:10 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:23 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:39 ` Hannes Reinecke
2008-07-04 14:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:34 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 22:08 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 23:13 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-04 23:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 0:51 ` Trent Piepho
2008-07-05 3:52 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 6:01 ` Bill Fink
2008-07-05 13:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 4:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 7:41 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-05 8:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 10:53 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 11:22 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:02 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 12:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:16 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 12:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 13:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 14:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 15:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 17:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 20:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 10:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-06 10:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 11:50 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-06 12:22 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:24 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:36 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-05 10:26 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:31 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:37 ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 20:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:52 ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:05 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 4:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-07-04 20:51 ` David Miller, Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 20:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 21:12 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:10 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 20:53 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 4:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 20:34 ` David Miller, Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 20:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-09 20:43 ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-07-04 11:06 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 13:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:26 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 13:28 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:45 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:13 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 6:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 16:10 ` Chuck Lever
2008-07-03 14:26 ` WARNING at acpi/.../utmisc.c:1043 [Was: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1] Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 14:38 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 15:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 23:35 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1--No e100 :( logs say missing formware Grant Coady
2008-07-04 0:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 23:42 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1--No e100 :( logs say missing firmware Grant Coady
2008-07-04 2:48 ` Question: split-lur // Re: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 9:02 ` memcg: lru scan fix (Was: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 19:16 ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-04 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-05 3:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 9:09 ` [PATCH] memcg: handle shmem's swap cache (Was 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05 5:41 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-05 6:11 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05 6:49 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-05 8:16 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-04 22:49 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1: unable to mount nfs shares Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-07-04 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-08 14:42 ` [BUG] 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - sleeping function called from invalid context at include/linux/pagemap.h:291 Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-12 7:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-09 21:33 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - Missing AC97 power save Kconfig? Zan Lynx
2008-07-09 22:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-09 22:34 ` Zan Lynx
2008-07-05 5:49 [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" Jaswinder Singh
2008-07-05 6:37 Jaswinder Singh
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