From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:25:54 +0100 From: Alan Cox Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" Message-ID: <20080703232554.7271d645@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <486D511A.9020405@garzik.org> References: <20080703020236.adaa51fa.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080703205548.D6E5.KOSAKI.MOTOHIRO@jp.fujitsu.com> <486CC440.9030909@garzik.org> <486CCFED.7010308@garzik.org> <1215091999.10393.556.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <486CD654.4020605@garzik.org> <1215093175.10393.567.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20080703173040.GB30506@mit.edu> <1215111362.10393.651.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <486D3E88.9090900@garzik.org> <486D4596.60005@infradead.org> <486D511A.9020405@garzik.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Return-Path: To: Jeff Garzik Cc: David Woodhouse , Theodore Tso , Hugh Dickins , Andrew Morton , KOSAKI Motohiro , mchan@broadcom.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org List-ID: O > Further, all current kernel build and test etc. scripts are unaware of > 'make firmware_install', and it is unfair to everybody to force a > flag-day build process change on people, just to keep their drivers in > the same working state today as it was yesterday. IMHO we want firmware built in as the default for the moment. If the firmware model makes sense (as I think it does) then the distributions will catch up, turn it on and sort out the default behaviour - exactly as they did all those years ago with modules, more recently with "use an initrd" and so on. > as "making no sense". All these are real world examples where users > FOLLOWING THEIR NORMAL, PROSCRIBED KERNEL PROCESSES will produce I hope you mean "prescribed" ;) > The only valid assumption here is to assume that the user is /unaware/ > of these new steps they must take in order to continue to have a working > system. To a large extent not the user but their distro - consider "make install" -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org