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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"containers@lists.osdl.org" <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"xemul@openvz.org" <xemul@openvz.org>,
	"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	"yamamoto@valinux.co.jp" <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [RFD][PATCH] memcg: Move Usage at Task Move
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:27:14 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080611172714.018aa68c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830806110104n99cdc7h80063e91d16bf0a5@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:04:14 -0700
"Paul Menage" <menage@google.com> wrote:

> An alternative way to support that would be to do nothing at move
> time, but provide a "pull_usage" control file that would slurp any
> pages in any mm in the cgroup into the cgroup.
> >> >
> >> > One reasone is that I think a typical usage of memory controller is
> >> > fork()->move->exec(). (by libcg ?) and exec() will flush the all usage.
> >>
> >> Exactly - this is a good reason *not* to implement move - because then
> >> you drag all the usage of the middleware daemon into the new cgroup.
> >>
> > Yes but this is one of the usage of cgroup. In general, system admin can
> > use this for limiting memory on his own decision.
> >
> 
> Sorry, your last sentence doesn't make sense to me in this context.
> 
Sorry. try another sentense..

I think cgroup itself is designed to be able to be used without middleware.
IOW, whether using middleware or not is the matter of users not of developpers.
There will be a system that system admin controlles all and move tasks by hand.
ex)...personal notebooks etc..

> If the common mode for middleware starting a new cgroup is fork() /
> move / exec() then after the fork(), the child will be sharing pages
> with the main daemon process. So the move will pull all the daemon's
> memory into the new cgroup
> 
My patch (this patch) just moves Private Anon page to new cgroup. (of mapcount=1)


> > yes. but, at first, I'll try no-rollback approach.
> > And can I move memory resource controller's subsys_id to the last for now ?
> >
> 
> That's probably fine for experimentation, but it wouldn't be something
> we'd want to commit to -mm or mainline.
> 


Hmm, I'd like to post a patch to add "rollback" to cgroup if I find it necessary.
My first purpose of this post is showing the problem and starting discussion.
Anyway, I will remove "RFC" only when I got enough number of Acks. 


Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-11  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-06  1:52 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-10  5:50 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-10  8:13   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-10 12:57     ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-11  2:02       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  3:45         ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-11  4:08           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-10  7:35 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-10  8:26   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  3:03     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-11  3:25       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  3:44         ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-11  4:14           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  4:29             ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-11  4:40               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-12  5:20             ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-12  6:51               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  7:17 ` Paul Menage
2008-06-11  7:45   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  8:04     ` Paul Menage
2008-06-11  8:27       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2008-06-11  8:48         ` Paul Menage
2008-06-12  5:08           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-12 13:17             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-06-12 13:34             ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-12 21:08               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-06-13  0:34                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-13  0:41                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  8:27   ` Balbir Singh
2008-06-11 12:21     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-11 12:51     ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-11 13:13       ` Balbir Singh

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