From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp, linux-mm@kvack.org,
containers@lists.osdl.org, menage@google.com,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, xemul@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [RFD][PATCH] memcg: Move Usage at Task Move
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:08:16 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080611130816.6dd36a31.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080611034514.D482F5A11@siro.lan>
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:45:14 +0900 (JST)
yamamoto@valinux.co.jp (YAMAMOTO Takashi) wrote:
> > > having said that, if you decide to put too large tasks into
> > > a cgroup with too small limit, i don't think that there are
> > > many choices besides OOM-kill and allowing "exceed".
> > >
> > IMHO, allowing exceed is harmfull without changing the definition of "limit".
> > "limit" is hard-limit, now, not soft-limit. Changing the defintion just for
> > this is not acceptable for me.
>
> even with the current code, the "exceed" condition can be created
> by simply lowering the limit.
> (well, i know that some of your patches floating around change it.)
>
Yes, I write it now ;) Handling exceed contains some troubles
- when resizing limit, to what extent exceed is allowed ?
- Once exceed, no new page allocation can success and
_some random process_ will die because of OOM.
> > Maybe "move" under limit itself is crazy ops....Hmm...
> >
> > Should we allow task move when the destination cgroup is unlimited ?
> > Isn't it useful ?
>
> i think it makes some sense.
>
> > > actually, i think that #3 and #5 are somewhat similar.
> > > a big difference is that, while #5 shrinks the cgroup immediately,
> > > #3 does it later. in case we need to do OOM-kill, i prefer to do it
> > > sooner than later.
> > >
> > #3 will not cause OOM-killer, I hope...A user can notice memory shortage.
>
> we are talking about the case where a cgroup's working set is getting
> hopelessly larger than its limit. i don't see why #3 will not
> cause OOM-kill. can you explain?
>
just because #3 doesn't move resource, just drop.
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-11 4:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-06 1:52 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-10 5:50 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-10 8:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-10 12:57 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-11 2:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11 3:45 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-11 4:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2008-06-10 7:35 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-10 8:26 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11 3:03 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-11 3:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11 3:44 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-11 4:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11 4:29 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-11 4:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-12 5:20 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-12 6:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11 7:17 ` Paul Menage
2008-06-11 7:45 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11 8:04 ` Paul Menage
2008-06-11 8:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11 8:48 ` Paul Menage
2008-06-12 5:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-12 13:17 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-06-12 13:34 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-12 21:08 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-06-13 0:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-13 0:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11 8:27 ` Balbir Singh
2008-06-11 12:21 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-11 12:51 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-11 13:13 ` Balbir Singh
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