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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"containers@lists.osdl.org" <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"xemul@openvz.org" <xemul@openvz.org>,
	"yamamoto@valinux.co.jp" <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	"menage@google.com" <menage@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFD][PATCH] memcg: Move Usage at Task Move
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:25:00 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080611122500.677757c6.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080611120345.07ddadc6.nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:03:45 +0900
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> wrote:
> > > Or, instead of implementing rollback in kernel,
> > > how about making user(or middle ware?) re-echo pid to rollbak
> > > on failure?
> > > 
> > 
> > "If the users does well, the system works in better way" is O.K.
> > "If the users doesn't well, the system works in broken way" is very bad.
> > 
> Hum...
> 
> I think users must know what they are doing.
> 
yes. but it's a different problem,
 - "a user must know what they does."
 - "a system works without BUG even if the user is crazy."


> They must know that moving a process to another group
> that doesn't have enough room for it may fail with half state,
> if it is the behavior of kernel.
> And they should handle the error by themselves, IMHO.
> 

I'm now considering following logic. How do you think ?

Assume: move TASK from group:CURR to group:DEST.

== move_task(TASK, CURR, DEST)

if (DEST's limit is unlimited)
	moving TASK
	return success.

usage = check_usage_of_task(TASK).

/* try to reserve enough room in destionation */
if (try_to_reserve_enough_room(DEST, usage)) {
	move TASK to DEST and move pages AMAP.
	/* usage_of_task(TASK) can be changed while we do this.
	   Then, we move AMAP. */
	return success;
}
return failure.
==

The difficult point will be reservation but can be implemented without
complexity.


Thanks,
-Kame







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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-11  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-06  1:52 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-10  5:50 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-10  8:13   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-10 12:57     ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-11  2:02       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  3:45         ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-11  4:08           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-10  7:35 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-10  8:26   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  3:03     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-11  3:25       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2008-06-11  3:44         ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-11  4:14           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  4:29             ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-11  4:40               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-12  5:20             ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-12  6:51               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  7:17 ` Paul Menage
2008-06-11  7:45   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  8:04     ` Paul Menage
2008-06-11  8:27       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  8:48         ` Paul Menage
2008-06-12  5:08           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-12 13:17             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-06-12 13:34             ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-12 21:08               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-06-13  0:34                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-13  0:41                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-11  8:27   ` Balbir Singh
2008-06-11 12:21     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-11 12:51     ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-11 13:13       ` Balbir Singh

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