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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	steiner@sgi.com, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>,
	Kanoj Sarcar <kanojsarcar@yahoo.com>,
	Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com,
	Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Subject: [ofa-general] Re: [patch 1/9] EMM Notifier: The notifier calls
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 23:53:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080402215334.GT19189@duo.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804021048460.27214@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 10:59:50AM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> Did I see #v10? Could you start a new subject when you post please? Do 
> not respond to some old message otherwise the threading will be wrong.

I wasn't clear enough, #v10 was in the works... I was thinking about
the last two issues before posting it.

> How exactly does the GRU corrupt memory?

Jack added synchronize_rcu, I assume for a reason.

>  
> >    Another less obviously safe approach is to allow the register
> >    method to succeed only when mm_users=1 and the task is single
> >    threaded. This way if all the places where the mmu notifers aren't
> >    invoked on the mm not by the current task, are only doing
> >    invalidates after/before zapping ptes, if the istantiation of new
> >    ptes is single threaded too, we shouldn't worry if we miss an
> >    invalidate for a pte that is zero and doesn't point to any physical
> >    page. In the places where current->mm != mm I'm using
> >    invalidate_page 99% of the time, and that only follows the
> >    ptep_clear_flush. The problem are the range_begin that will happen
> >    before zapping the pte in places where current->mm !=
> >    mm. Unfortunately in my incremental patch where I move all
> >    invalidate_page outside of the PT lock to prepare for allowing
> >    sleeping inside the mmu notifiers, I used range_begin/end in places
> >    like try_to_unmap_cluster where current->mm != mm. In general
> >    this solution looks more fragile than the seqlock.
> 
> Hmmm... Okay that is one solution that would just require a BUG_ON in the 
> registration methods.

Perhaps you didn't notice that this solution can't work if you call
range_begin/end not in the "current" context and try_to_unmap_cluster
does exactly that for both my patchset and yours. Missing an _end is
ok, missing a _begin is never ok.

> Well doesnt the requirement of just one execution thread also deal with 
> that issue?

Yes, except again it can't work for try_to_unmap_cluster.

This solution is only applicable to #v10 if I fix try_to_unmap_cluster
to only call invalidate_page (relaying on the fact the VM holds a pin
and a lock on any page that is being mmu-notifier-invalidated).

You can't use the single threaded approach to solve either 1 or 2,
because your _begin call is called anywhere and that's where you call
the secondary-tlb flush and it's fatal to miss it.

invalidate_page is called always after, so it enforced the tlb flush
to be called _after_ and so it's inherently safe.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-02 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-01 20:55 [ofa-general] [patch 0/9] [RFC] EMM Notifier V2 Christoph Lameter
2008-04-01 20:55 ` [patch 1/9] EMM Notifier: The notifier calls Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02  6:49   ` [ofa-general] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 10:59     ` Robin Holt
2008-04-02 11:16       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 14:26         ` Robin Holt
2008-04-02 17:59     ` [ofa-general] " Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02 19:03       ` [ofa-general] EMM: Fixup return value handling of emm_notify() Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02 21:25         ` [ofa-general] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 21:33           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-03 10:40             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-03 15:00               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-03 19:14               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02 21:05       ` [ofa-general] EMM: Require single threadedness for registration Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02 22:01         ` [ofa-general] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 22:06           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02 22:17             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 22:41               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-03  1:24               ` EMM: disable other notifiers before register and unregister Christoph Lameter
2008-04-03 10:40                 ` [ofa-general] " Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-03 15:29                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-03 19:20                   ` [ofa-general] " Christoph Lameter
2008-04-03 20:23                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-04 12:30                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-04 20:20                     ` [ofa-general] [PATCH] mmu notifier #v11 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-04 22:06                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-05  0:23                         ` [ofa-general] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-07  5:45                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-07  6:02                             ` [ofa-general] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 21:53       ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-04-02 21:54         ` [ofa-general] Re: [patch 1/9] EMM Notifier: The notifier calls Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02 22:09           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 23:04             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-01 20:55 ` [ofa-general] [patch 2/9] Move tlb flushing into free_pgtables Christoph Lameter
2008-04-01 20:55 ` [ofa-general] [patch 3/9] Convert i_mmap_lock to i_mmap_sem Christoph Lameter
2008-04-01 20:55 ` [patch 4/9] Remove tlb pointer from the parameters of unmap vmas Christoph Lameter
2008-04-01 20:55 ` [patch 5/9] Convert anon_vma lock to rw_sem and refcount Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02 17:50   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 18:15     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02 21:56       ` [ofa-general] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 21:56         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-02 22:12           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-01 20:55 ` [patch 6/9] This patch exports zap_page_range as it is needed by XPMEM Christoph Lameter
2008-04-01 20:55 ` [patch 7/9] Locking rules for taking multiple mmap_sem locks Christoph Lameter
2008-04-01 20:55 ` [patch 8/9] XPMEM: The device driver Christoph Lameter
2008-04-01 20:55 ` [patch 9/9] XPMEM: Simple example Christoph Lameter

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