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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Tom May <tom@tommay.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8][for -mm] mem_notify v6
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:31:27 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080402154910.9588.KOSAKI.MOTOHIRO@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab3f9b940804011635g2de833d0l44558f78a1cce1e5@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tom,

Thank you very useful comment.
that is very interesting.

> I tried it with a real-world program that, among other things, mmaps
> anonymous pages and touches them at a reasonable speed until it gets
> notified via /dev/mem_notify, releases most of them with
> madvise(MADV_DONTNEED), then loops to start the cycle again.
>
> What tends to happen is that I do indeed get notifications via
> /dev/mem_notify when the kernel would like to be swapping, at which
> point I free memory.  But the notifications come at a time when the
> kernel needs memory, and it gets the memory by discarding some Cached
> or Mapped memory (I can see these decreasing in /proc/meminfo with
> each notification).  With each mmap/notify/madvise cycle the Cached
> and Mapped memory gets smaller, until eventually while I'm touching
> pages the kernel can't find enough memory and will either invoke the
> OOM killer or return ENOMEM from syscalls.  This is precisely the
> situation I'm trying to avoid by using /dev/mem_notify.

Could you send your test program?
I can't reproduce that now, sorry.


> The criterion of "notify when the kernel would like to swap" feels
> correct, but in addition I seem to need something like "notify when
> cached+mapped+free memory is getting low".

Hmmm,
I think this idea is only useful when userland process call 
madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) periodically.

but I hope improve my patch and solve your problem.
if you don' mind, please help my testing ;)

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-02  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-09 15:19 KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-09 16:02 ` Jon Masters
2008-02-09 16:33   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-09 16:43     ` Rik van Riel
2008-02-09 16:49       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-11 15:36 ` [PATCH 0/8][for -mm] mem_notify v6, " Jonathan Corbet
2008-02-11 15:46   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-17 14:49 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-19  7:36   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-19 15:00     ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-19 19:02       ` Rik van Riel
2008-02-19 20:18         ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-19 20:43           ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-19 22:28       ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-20  1:54         ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-20  2:07         ` Rik van Riel
2008-02-20  2:48           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-20  4:57             ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-20  5:21               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-20  4:36           ` Paul Jackson
2008-04-01 23:35 ` Tom May
2008-04-02  7:31   ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2008-04-02 17:45     ` Tom May
2008-04-15  0:16     ` Tom May
2008-04-16  2:30       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-17  9:30       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-17 19:23         ` Tom May
2008-04-18 10:07           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-21 20:32             ` Tom May
2008-04-23  8:27           ` Daniel Spång
2008-05-01  2:07             ` Tom May
2008-05-01 15:06               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-05-02 22:21                 ` Tom May
2008-05-03 12:26                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-05-06  5:22                     ` Tom May

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