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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: clameter@sgi.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: larger default page sizes...
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:43:56 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:05:02 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080324.144356.104645106.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0803241402060.7762@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, David Miller wrote:
> 
> > From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
> > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
> > 
> > > The move to 64k page size on IA64 is another way that this issue can
> > > be addressed though.
> > 
> > This is such a huge mistake I wish platforms such as powerpc and IA64
> > would not make such decisions so lightly.
> 
> Its certainly not a light decision if your customer tells you that the box 
> is almost unusable with 16k page size. For our new 2k and 4k processor 
> systems this seems to be a requirement. Customers start hacking SLES10 to 
> run with 64k pages....

We should fix the underlying problems.

I'm hitting issues on 128 cpu Niagara2 boxes, and it's all fundamental
stuff like contention on the per-zone page allocator locks.

Which is very fixable, without going to larger pages.

> powerpc also runs HPC codes. They certainly see the same results
> that we see.

There are ways to get large pages into the process address space for
compute bound tasks, without suffering the well known negative side
effects of using larger pages for everything.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-24 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-21  6:17 [00/14] Virtual Compound Page Support V3 Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [01/14] vcompound: Return page array on vunmap Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [02/14] vcompound: pageflags: Add PageVcompound() Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [03/14] vmallocinfo: Support display of vcompound for a virtual compound page Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  7:55   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-21 17:32     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [04/14] vcompound: Core piece Christoph Lameter
2008-03-22 12:10   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-03-24 18:28     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [05/14] vcompound: Debugging aid Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [06/14] vcompound: Virtual fallback for sparsemem Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [07/14] vcompound: bit waitqueue support Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [08/14] vcompound: Fallback for zone wait table Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [09/14] vcompound: crypto: Fallback for temporary order 2 allocation Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [10/14] vcompound: slub: Use for buffer to correlate allocation addresses Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [11/14] vcompound: Fallbacks for order 1 stack allocations on IA64 and x86 Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  7:25   ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  8:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-21 17:33       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 19:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-21 19:04           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 17:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 21:57       ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 18:27         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 20:37           ` larger default page sizes David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 21:05             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 21:43               ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-03-25 17:48                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 23:22                   ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 23:41                     ` Peter Chubb
2008-03-25 23:49                       ` David Miller, Peter Chubb
2008-03-26  0:25                         ` Peter Chubb
2008-03-26  0:31                           ` David Miller, Peter Chubb
2008-03-26  0:34                       ` David Mosberger-Tang
2008-03-26  0:39                         ` David Miller, David Mosberger-Tang
2008-03-26  0:57                         ` Peter Chubb
2008-03-26  4:16                           ` John Marvin
2008-03-26  4:36                             ` David Miller, John Marvin
2008-03-24 21:25             ` Luck, Tony
2008-03-24 21:46               ` David Miller, Luck, Tony
2008-03-25  3:29             ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25  4:15               ` David Miller, Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25 11:50                 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25 23:32                   ` David Miller, Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25 23:49                     ` Luck, Tony
2008-03-26  0:16                       ` David Miller, Luck, Tony
2008-03-26 15:54                       ` Nish Aravamudan
2008-03-26 17:05                         ` Luck, Tony
2008-03-26 18:54                           ` Mel Gorman
2008-03-25 12:05               ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-25 21:27                 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-26  5:24                 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-26 15:59                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-27  1:08                     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-26 17:56                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-26 23:21                     ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-27  3:00                     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25 18:27               ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-24 21:13           ` [11/14] vcompound: Fallbacks for order 1 stack allocations on IA64 and x86 Luck, Tony
2008-03-25 17:42             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 19:09               ` Luck, Tony
2008-03-25 19:25                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 22:30   ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-24 19:53     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25  7:51       ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-25 17:55         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 18:07           ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [12/14] vcompound: Avoid vmalloc in e1000 driver Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 17:27   ` Kok, Auke
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [13/14] vcompound: Use vcompound for swap_map Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 21:25   ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-21 21:33     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 19:54     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25  7:52       ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-25 17:45         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 17:55           ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-25 17:51             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  6:17 ` [14/14] vcompound: Avoid vmalloc for ehash_locks Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  7:02   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-21  7:03     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  7:31       ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21  7:42         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-21  7:31     ` David Miller, Eric Dumazet
2008-03-21 17:31       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-22 18:40 ` [00/14] Virtual Compound Page Support V3 Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-24 18:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 19:29     ` Christoph Lameter

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