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From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: melgor@ie.ibm.com, apw@shadowen.org, agl@us.ibm.com,
	wli@holomorphy.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/2] Explicitly retry hugepage allocations
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:11:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080208171132.GE15903@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802061529480.22648@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On 06.02.2008 [15:30:53 -0800], Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> 
> > Add __GFP_REPEAT to hugepage allocations. Do so to not necessitate
> > userspace putting pressure on the VM by repeated echo's into
> > /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages to grow the pool. With the previous patch
> > to allow for large-order __GFP_REPEAT attempts to loop for a bit (as
> > opposed to indefinitely), this increases the likelihood of getting
> > hugepages when the system experiences (or recently experienced)
> > load.
> > 
> > On a 2-way x86_64, this doubles the number of hugepages (from 10 to
> > 20) obtained while compiling a kernel at the same time. On a 4-way
> > ppc64, a similar scale increase is seen (from 3 to 5 hugepages).
> > Finally, on a 2-way x86, this leads to a 5-fold increase in the
> > hugepages allocatable under load (90 to 554).
> 
> Hmmm... How about defaulting to __GFP_REPEAT by default for larger
> page allocations? There are other users of larger allocs that would
> also benefit from the same measure. I think it would be fine as long
> as we are sure to fail at some point.

In thinking about this more, one of the harder parts for me to get my
head around was the implicit promotion of small-order allocations to
__GFP_REPEAT (and thus to __GFP_NOFAIL). I would prefer keeping the
large-order allocations explicit as to when they want the VM to try
harder to succeed. As far as I understand it, only hugepages really will
leverage this from code in in the kernel currently? I also feel like,
even if __GFP_REPEAT becomes a default behavior, it's better to use it
as a documentation of intent from the caller -- and perhaps indicate to
us sites that are over-stressing the VM unnecessarily by regularly
forcing reclaim?

I also am not 100% positive on how I would test the result of such a
change, since there are not that many large-order allocations in the
kernel... Did you have any thoughts on that?

Thanks,
Nish

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-08 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-06 23:07 [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Smarter retry of costly-order allocations Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-02-06 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] Explicitly retry hugepage allocations Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-02-06 23:30   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-07  1:04     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-02-08 17:11     ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2008-02-08 19:19       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-08 23:40         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-02-08 23:42           ` Christoph Lameter

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