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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: travis@sgi.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] x86: Reduce memory and intra-node effects with large count NR_CPUs
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:30:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801141230.56403.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080114101133.GA23238@elte.hu>

> i think this patchset already gives a net win, by moving stuff from 
> NR_CPUS arrays into per_cpu area. (Travis please confirm that this is 
> indeed what the numbers show)

Yes that is what his patchkit does, although I'm not sure he has addressed all NR_CPUS
pigs yet. The basic idea came out of some discussions we had at kernel summit on this 
topic. It's definitely a step in the right direction.

Another problem is that NR_IRQS currently scales with NR_CPUs which is wrong too
(e.g. a hyperthreaded quad core/socket does not need 8 times as many 
external interrupts as a single core/socket). And there are unfortunately a few 
drivers that declare NR_IRQS arrays.

In general there are more scaling problems like this (e.g. it also doesn't make
sense to scale kernel threads for each CPU thread for example).

At some point we might need to separate CONFIG_NR_CPUS into a 
CONFIG_NR_SOCKETS / CONFIG_NR_CPUS to address this, although full dynamic
scaling without configuration is best of course.

All can just be addressed step by step of course.

-Andi

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-14 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-13 18:34 travis
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 01/10] x86: Change size of APICIDs from u8 to u16 travis
2008-01-14 12:23   ` Mel Gorman
2008-01-14 18:13     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 19:26     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 18:10   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-14 18:22     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 18:32     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 19:16       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 02/10] x86: Change size of node ids " travis
2008-01-13 20:01   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 03/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in powernow-k8 travis
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 04/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in intel_cacheinfo travis
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 05/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in smpboot_64 travis
2008-01-13 18:34 ` [PATCH 06/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in topology travis
2008-01-14 18:25   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-14 19:08     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-13 18:35 ` [PATCH 07/10] x86: Cleanup x86_cpu_to_apicid references travis
2008-01-13 18:35 ` [PATCH 08/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in numa_64 travis
2008-01-14 11:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14 17:17     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 18:14   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-13 18:35 ` [PATCH 09/10] x86: Change NR_CPUS arrays in acpi-cpufreq travis
2008-01-13 18:35 ` [PATCH 10/10] x86: Change bios_cpu_apicid to percpu data variable travis
2008-01-14  8:14 ` [PATCH 00/10] x86: Reduce memory and intra-node effects with large count NR_CPUs Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14  9:00   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14 17:52     ` Mike Travis
2008-01-14 10:04   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-14 10:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14 11:30       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-01-16  7:34         ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-16 18:07           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-14 18:00       ` Mike Travis

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