From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@cpushare.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@cpushare.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11 of 11] not-wait-memdie
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 08:45:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080108074502.GF22800@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801081425.31515.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 02:25:31PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> We already do that today in the case of regular page reclaim.
exactly. And we have to set TIF_MEMDIE on more than one task in case
we have a locking dependency like the ones I can trivially reproduce.
> The problem is the global reserve. Once you have a kernel that doesn't
> need this handwavy global reserve for forward progress, a lot of little
> problems go away.
Yep.
> It should be, but that task you OOM may be blocking on another one that
> is waiting for memory, for example.
Exactly.
> In practice, I think a task will not need a great deal of memory in order
> to finish what it is doing and exit; but it will be more likely to be in
> some oom deadlock. So neither solution is perfect, but I think this patch
> will solve more cases than it introduces.
Yes. The memory reserve being accessed by more than one TIF_MEMDIE
task is the least of the problems. Also consider the first task will
normally not even try to use the memory reserve at all, because if we
set TIF_MEMDIE on a second task, it's because the first task was
normally totally stuck on a lock and sleeping in D state the whole time.
> Why not just have a global frequency limit on OOM events. Then the panic
> has this delay factored in...
My current pathset uses 1min as max frequency.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-08 7:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-03 2:09 [PATCH 00 of 11] oom deadlock fixes Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 01 of 11] limit shrink zone scanning Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-07 19:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 02 of 11] avoid oom deadlock in nfs_create_request Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-07 19:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 03 of 11] prevent oom deadlocks during read/write operations Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-07 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-07 19:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 04 of 11] avoid selecting already killed tasks Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 9:40 ` David Rientjes
2008-01-03 13:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 18:47 ` David Rientjes
2008-01-03 19:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 20:49 ` David Rientjes
2008-01-07 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 05 of 11] reduce the probability of an OOM livelock Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-07 19:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 06 of 11] balance_pgdat doesn't return the number of pages freed Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-07 19:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 07 of 11] don't depend on PF_EXITING tasks to go away Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 9:52 ` David Rientjes
2008-01-03 13:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] stop useless vm trashing while we wait the TIF_MEMDIE task to exit Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 09 of 11] oom select should only take rss into account Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-07 19:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 10 of 11] limit reclaim if enough pages have been freed Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-07 19:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-08 7:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 2:09 ` [PATCH 11 of 11] not-wait-memdie Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 9:55 ` David Rientjes
2008-01-03 13:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-03 18:54 ` David Rientjes
2008-01-07 19:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-08 1:57 ` David Rientjes
2008-01-08 3:25 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 3:37 ` David Rientjes
2008-01-08 7:42 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 7:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-01-08 7:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-08 7:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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