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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [patch] radix-tree: avoid atomic allocations for preloaded insertions
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:02:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071107190254.4e65812a.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071108013723.GF3227@wotan.suse.de>

> On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:37:23 +0100 Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 05:09:23PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 01:43:04 +0100 Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
>  
> I wouldn't have thought it should slow things down _too much_. The radix
> tree nodes are those unusual allocations (like pagetables) that don't
> really need to be allocated cache-hot. (If that's where you're thinking
> the slowdown will come from...)

Well, it's simply more work.  For each ratnode we presently do

	test radix_tree_preloads, do nothing
	kmem_cache_alloc()

now we do

	test radix_tree_preloads
		kmem_cache_alloc()
		store it in radix_tree_preloads()
	retrieve it from radix_tree_preloads()

it's not a _lot_ of work, but it's there.  Mainly the new dirtying of this
cpu's radix_tree_preload all the time.

> 
> > I'd have thought that a superior approach would be to just set
> > __GFP_NOWARN?
> 
> But given that the potential performance loss is so small, I think it is
> more important to avoid using reserves that we need for important things
> like networking.

Spose so.  We'll end up consuming a quarter of the atomic reserve in rare
situations for very short periods.

> Though even if we ignore the question of atomic allocations, I think it
> is really nice to be able to turn tree_lock into an innermost lock, and
> not transitively pollute it with zone->lock.

That would be nice if it were true.  But you still have a
kmem_cache_alloc() in radix_tree_node_alloc()

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-08  3:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-08  0:43 Nick Piggin
2007-11-08  1:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  1:34   ` David Miller, Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  1:41     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  1:45       ` David Miller, Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  1:37   ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-08  3:02     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-11-08  3:16       ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-08  4:12         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  4:54           ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-08  5:02             ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  5:44               ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-08  6:02                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  6:54                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-08  6:56                   ` [patch] nfs: use GFP_NOFS preloads for radix-tree insertion Nick Piggin
2007-11-13 10:55                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-14  4:20                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14  9:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-14 15:39                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-08 11:57           ` [patch] radix-tree: avoid atomic allocations for preloaded insertions Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-08 20:37             ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-08 20:47               ` Peter Zijlstra

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