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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/10] define page_file_cache
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:35:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071107093527.0d312903@bree.surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711061920510.5746@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:26:33 -0800 (PST)
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
> n Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
> > Every anonymous, tmpfs or shared memory segment page is potentially
> > swap backed. That is the whole point of the PG_swapbacked flag.
> 
> One of the current issues with anonymous pages is the accounting when 
> they become file backed and get dirty.

What are you talking about?

How exactly can an anonymous page ever become file backed?

> There are performance issue with swap writeout

That is one of the reasons everything that is ram/swap backed
goes onto a different set of LRU lists from everything that is
backed by a disk or network filesystem.

> Do ramfs pages count as memory backed?

Since ramfs pages cannot be evicted from memory at all, they
should go into the "noreclaim" page set.

> > A page from a filesystem like ext3 or NFS cannot suddenly turn into
> > a swap backed page.  This page "nature" is not changed during the
> > lifetime of a page.
> 
> Well COW sortof does that but then its a new page.

Exactly.  As far as I know, a page never changes from a file
page into an anonymous page, or the other way around.

-- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-07 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-03 22:42 [RFC PATCH 0/10] split anon and file LRUs Rik van Riel
2007-11-03 22:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/10] move isolate_lru_page to vmscan.c Rik van Riel
2007-11-07  2:13   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-03 22:54 ` [RFC PATCH 2/10] free swap space entries if vm_swap_full() Rik van Riel
2007-11-07  2:20   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-07  2:48     ` Rik van Riel
2007-11-03 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 3/10] define page_file_cache Rik van Riel
2007-11-07  2:23   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-07  2:55     ` Rik van Riel
2007-11-07  3:02       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-07  3:17         ` Rik van Riel
2007-11-07  3:26           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-07 14:35             ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-11-07 18:06               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-07 18:17                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-11-07 18:18                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-03 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 4/10] debug page_file_cache Rik van Riel
2007-11-03 22:56 ` [RFC PATCH 5/10] use an indexed array for LRU lists and variables Rik van Riel
2007-11-03 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 6/10] split anon and file LRUs Rik van Riel
2007-11-07  2:28   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-07  3:00     ` Rik van Riel
2007-11-03 23:02 ` [RFC PATCH 7/10] clean up the LRU array arithmetic Rik van Riel
2007-11-03 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH 8/10] make split VM and lumpy reclaim work together Rik van Riel
2007-11-03 23:04 ` [RFC PATCH 9/10] split VM and memory controllers Rik van Riel
2007-11-03 23:06 ` [RFC PATCH 10/10] add swapped in pages to the inactive list Rik van Riel
2007-11-07  2:11 ` [RFC PATCH 0/10] split anon and file LRUs Christoph Lameter
2007-11-07  2:23   ` Rik van Riel
2007-11-07  2:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-11-07  2:51       ` Rik van Riel
2007-11-07 17:59         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-07 18:16           ` Rik van Riel

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