From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, dkegel@google.com,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Recursive reclaim (on __PF_MEMALLOC)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:44:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071026174409.GA1573@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1189457286.21778.68.camel@twins>
Hi!
> > > or
> > >
> > > - have a global reserve and selectively serves sockets
> > > (what I've been doing)
> >
> > That is a scalability problem on large systems! Global means global
> > serialization, cacheline bouncing and possibly livelocks. If we get into
> > this global shortage then all cpus may end up taking the same locks
> > cycling thought the same allocation paths.
>
> Dude, breathe, these boxens of yours will never swap over network simply
> because you never configure swap.
>
> And, _no_, it does not necessarily mean global serialisation. By simply
> saying there must be N pages available I say nothing about on which node
> they should be available, and the way the watermarks work they will be
> evenly distributed over the appropriate zones.
Agreed. Scalability of emergency swapping reserved is simply
unimportant. Please, lets get swapping to _work_ first, then we can
make it faster.
No, I do not think we'll ever see a livelock on this.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-26 17:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-14 14:21 Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:21 ` [RFC 1/3] Allow reclaim via __GFP_NOMEMALLOC reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:21 ` [RFC 2/3] Use NOMEMALLOC reclaim to allow reclaim if PF_MEMALLOC is set Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:21 ` [RFC 3/3] Test code for PF_MEMALLOC reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 14:36 ` [RFC 0/3] Recursive reclaim (on __PF_MEMALLOC) Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-14 15:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 19:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-14 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-15 12:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-15 14:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-15 13:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-15 14:34 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-15 20:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-15 20:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16 3:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-16 20:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 3:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 0:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-21 0:28 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-21 15:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-23 3:02 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-12 22:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-05 9:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-05 10:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-05 11:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-05 12:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-05 12:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-10 19:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 19:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 19:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 20:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 20:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-11 7:41 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-12 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-12 22:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-13 18:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 19:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-05 16:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-08 5:12 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-09-18 0:28 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-18 3:27 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <200709172211.26493.phillips@phunq.net>
2007-09-18 8:11 ` Wouter Verhelst
2007-09-18 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 16:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-18 19:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 9:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 18:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-18 20:13 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-09-10 19:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 19:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 20:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-10 20:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-26 17:44 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-10-26 17:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-27 22:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-10-27 23:08 ` Daniel Phillips
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