From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
mel@skynet.ie, y-goto@jp.fujitsu.com,
Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Eric Whitney <eric.whitney@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] Add node 'states' sysfs class attribute - V2
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:18:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070827201822.2506b888.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708271826180.10344@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > > online: 0-1, 3
> >
> > really? with commas and spaces and minus signs and colons? ug, what next?
> > animated ascii art? This is sysfs, not procfs ;)
>
> The masks can get quite ugly to read if you have lots of nodes. F.e. with
> 1024 nodes you get a line that wraps around more than 10 times.
So don't read them - use a program to turn them into your preferred
human-readable representation.
One could argue that with sufficient effort, all formats are
machine-digestible, but a simple, robust and maintainable format like a
bitmap makes sense for a kernel->userspace interface, IMO.
We see this often, btw. People want nice and easy-to-read kernel->human
interfaces because the tool of choice for displaying these things to humans
is "cat". How lame is that?
I do think that a sysfs interface like this should be optimised for
kernel->program communication, not for kernel->human.
> > OK, well if the meminfo file is the only one in there which broke the
> > golden rule, I don't think we have sufficient excuse to break it again.
> >
> > $ cat /sys/devices/system/node/possible
> > 0-4
> > $
> >
> > I think a bitmap would be better, personally.
> >
> > That in fact makes "possible" unneeded, doesn't it? It would always be
> > all-ones?
>
> There could be the case that nodes 1-9 and 20-29 are possible but
> the ones in between are not available.
OK.
How do we communicate to userspace what is the maximum number of nodes
which this kernel supports? That would be (1<<CONFIG_NODES_SHIFT), I
guess. Or maybe we don't care?
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-08-27 15:58 ` [PATCH] 2.6.23-rc3-mm1 - update N_HIGH_MEMORY node state for memory hotadd Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 17:48 ` [PATCH/RFC] Add node 'states' sysfs class attribute Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 19:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-27 20:08 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 20:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-27 21:02 ` [PATCH/RFC] Add node 'states' sysfs class attribute - V2 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 21:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-28 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-28 0:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-28 1:14 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-28 1:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-28 3:18 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-08-28 5:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-28 5:29 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-28 5:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-28 5:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-28 6:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-28 14:05 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-28 22:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-28 22:13 ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-08-29 14:43 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-29 17:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-29 21:31 ` [PATCH/RFC] Add node states sysfs class attributeS - V3 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-29 22:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-30 13:34 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-29 22:36 ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-08-30 15:19 ` [PATCH/RFC] Add node states sysfs class attributeS - V4 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-30 16:44 ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-08-30 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-30 18:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-30 18:41 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-11 13:56 ` [PATCH/RFC] Add node states sysfs class attributeS - V5 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-11 20:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-14 10:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-14 11:35 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-14 14:34 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 14:43 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 15:00 ` Paul Mundt
2007-09-16 12:10 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 16:00 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-08-28 19:34 ` [PATCH/RFC] Add node 'states' sysfs class attribute - V2 Christoph Lameter
2007-08-28 1:16 ` Yasunori Goto
2007-08-28 1:21 ` Yasunori Goto
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