From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/7] Postphone reclaim laundry to write at high water marks
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:16:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070823121643.GP13915@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1187813025.5463.85.camel@lappy>
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:03:45PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Its not extreme, not even rare, and its handled now. Its what
> PF_MEMALLOC is for.
Agreed. This is the whole point, either you limit the max amount of
anon memory, slab, alloc_pages a driver can do or you reserve a
pool. Guess what? In practice limiting the max ram a driver can eat in
alloc_pages, at the same time while limting the max amount of pages
that can be anon ram, etc..etc.. is called "reserving a pool of
freepages for PF_MEMALLOC".
Now in theory we could try a may_writepage=0 second reclaim pass
before using the PF_MEMALLOC pool but would that make any difference
other than being slower? We can argue what should be done first but
the PF_MEMALLOC pool isn't likely to go away with this patch... only
way to make it go away is to have every subsystem including tcp
incoming to have mempools for everything which is too complicated to
implement so we've to live the imperfect world that just works good
enough.
This logic of falling back in a may_writepage=0 pass will make things
a bit more reliable but certainly not perfect and it doesn't obsolete
the need of the current code IMHO.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-23 12:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-20 21:50 Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 1/7] release_lru_pages(): Generic release of pages to the LRU Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 14:52 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 20:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 2/7] Move checks from pageout() to shrink_page_list Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 3/7] shrink_page_list: Support isolating dirty pages on laundry list Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:04 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 20:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 4/7] Pass laundry through shrink_inactive_list() and shrink_zone() Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 5/7] Laundry handling for direct reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:06 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 20:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 21:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 6/7] kswapd: Do laundry after reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 7/7] Switch of PF_MEMALLOC during writeout Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 23:08 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 23:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 1:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 10:36 ` [RFC 0/7] Postphone reclaim laundry to write at high water marks Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 20:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 21:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 21:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 21:43 ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-21 22:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-23 12:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-23 20:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 22:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 22:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-22 7:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-22 19:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-22 20:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-22 20:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-23 7:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-26 4:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-23 12:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2007-08-22 7:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-22 19:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-23 12:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-23 12:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 15:16 ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-21 20:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 21:14 ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-21 21:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:51 ` Dave McCracken
2007-08-21 21:03 ` Christoph Lameter
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