From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:56:49 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] per device dirty throttling -v8 Message-ID: <20070805125649.GB22060@elte.hu> References: <46B4C0A8.1000902@garzik.org> <20070804191205.GA24723@lazybastard.org> <20070804192130.GA25346@elte.hu> <20070804211156.5f600d80@the-village.bc.nu> <20070804202830.GA4538@elte.hu> <20070804210351.GA9784@elte.hu> <20070804225121.5c7b66e0@the-village.bc.nu> <20070805072141.GA4414@elte.hu> <20070805134750.691e2e74@the-village.bc.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070805134750.691e2e74@the-village.bc.nu> Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Return-Path: To: Alan Cox Cc: J??rn Engel , Jeff Garzik , Linus Torvalds , Peter Zijlstra , linux-mm@kvack.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , miklos@szeredi.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com, tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com, nikita@clusterfs.com, trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, yingchao.zhou@gmail.com, richard@rsk.demon.co.uk, david@lang.hm List-ID: * Alan Cox wrote: > > > we can move from atime to noatime by default on FC8 with > > > appropriate release note warnings and having a couple of betas to > > > find out what other than mutt goes boom. > > > > btw., Mutt does not go boom, i use it myself. It works just fine and > > notices new mails even on a noatime,nodiratime filesystem. > > Configuration dependant, and also mutt and the shell will misreport > new mail with noatime on the mail spool. The shell should probably use > inotify of course but that change has to be made. just to quote from this same email thread: | I too use mutt and noatime,nodiratime everywhere (same 10 year-old | thinko), and the only side effect is that when I have a new mail, it | is reported in all of my xterms until I read it, clearly something I | can live with (and sometimes it's even desirable). | | In fact, mutt is pretty good at this. It updates atime and ctime | itself as soon as it opens the mbox, so the shell is happy and only | reports "you have mail" afterwards. Ingo -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org