From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: How can we make page replacement smarter (was: swap-prefetch)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:11:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707281411.57823.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46AAEFC4.8000006@redhat.com>
Chris Snook wrote:
> Al Boldi wrote:
> > Because it is hard to quantify the expected swap-in speed for random
> > pages, let's first tackle the swap-in of consecutive pages, which should
> > be at least as fast as swap-out. So again, why is swap-in so slow?
>
> If I'm writing 20 pages to swap, I can find a suitable chunk of swap and
> write them all in one place. If I'm reading 20 pages from swap, they
> could be anywhere. Also, writes get buffered at one or more layers of
> hardware.
Ok, this explains swap-in of random pages. Makes sense, but it doesn't
explain the awful tmpfs performance degradation of consecutive read-in runs
from swap, which should have at least stayed constant
> At best, reads can be read-ahead and cached, which is why
> sequential swap-in sucks less. On-demand reads are as expensive as I/O
> can get.
Which means that it should be at least as fast as swap-out, even faster
because write to disk is usually slower than read on modern disks. But
linux currently shows a distinct 2x slowdown for sequential swap-in wrt
swap-out. And to prove this point, just try suspend to disk where you can
see sequential swap-out being reported at about twice the speed of
sequential swap-in on resume. Why is that?
Thanks!
--
Al
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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-07-28 1:56 ` swap-prefetch: A smart way to make good use of idle resources (was: updatedb) Chris Snook
2007-07-28 4:17 ` How can we make page replacement smarter (was: swap-prefetch) Al Boldi
2007-07-28 7:27 ` Chris Snook
2007-07-28 11:11 ` Al Boldi [this message]
2007-07-29 4:07 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-29 6:40 ` Erblichs
2007-07-29 1:46 ` How can we make page replacement smarter Rik van Riel
2007-07-29 13:09 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-29 15:01 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-29 14:55 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-28 4:18 ` swap-prefetch: A smart way to make good use of idle resources (was: updatedb) Al Boldi
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2007-07-28 16:32 ` How can we make page replacement smarter (was: swap-prefetch) Robert Hancock
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