From: mel@skynet.ie (Mel Gorman)
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
ak@suse.de, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, pj@sgi.com
Subject: Re: NUMA policy issues with ZONE_MOVABLE
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:23:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070726132336.GA18825@skynet.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707251212300.8820@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On (25/07/07 12:31), Christoph Lameter didst pronounce:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Mel Gorman wrote:
>
> > o check_highest_zone will be the highest populated zone that is not ZONE_MOVEABLE
> > o bind_zonelist builds a zonelist of all populated zones, not policy_zone and lower
> > o The page allocator checks what the highest usable zone is and ignores
> > zones in the zonelist that should not be used
>
> Which is a performance impact that we would rather avoid since we are now
> filtering zonelists on every allocation.
Yes, that is true. Only allocations using the MPOL_BIND policy would need
to do this checking so it's be best to only filter zones when necessary.
Prehaps if zonelist had a parameter called should_filter that is only set
for the policy zonelists that need this checking. That would avoid doing
any filter checking for almost all allocations.
So we would have;
static struct page *
get_page_from_freelist(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
struct zonelist *zonelist, int alloc_flags)
{
...
int should_filter = zonelist->should_filter;
...
if (NUMA_BUILD && should_filter)
highest_zoneidx = gfp_zone(gfp_mask);
do {
...
if (NUMA_BUILD && should_filter && zone_idx(*z) > highest_zoneidx)
continue;
}
?
That would avoid filtering in normal cases and particular avoiding using
zone_idx() a lot.
> But we have other issues as well
> that would be fixed by this approach.
>
> How about changing __alloc_pages to lookup the zonelist on its own based
> on a node parameter and a set of allowed nodes? That may significantly
> clean up the memory policy layer and the cpuset layer. But it will
> increase the effort to scan zonelists on each allocation. A large system
> with 1024 nodes may have more than 1024 zones on each nodelist!
>
That sounds like it would require the creation of a zonelist for each
allocation attempt. That is not ideal as there is no place to allocate
the zonelist during __alloc_pages(). It's not like it can call
kmalloc().
> > On the second point here, policy_zone and how it is used is a bit
> > mad. Particularly, its behaviour on machines with multiple zones is a
> > little unpredictable with cross-platform applications potentially behaving
> > different on IA64 than x86_64 for example. However, a test patch that would
> > delete it looked as if it would break NUMAQ if a process was bound to nodes
> > 2 and 3 but not 0 for example because slab allocations would fail. Similar,
> > it would have consequences on x86_64 with NORMAL and DMA32.
>
> Nope it would not fail. NUMAQ has policy_zone == HIGHMEM and slab
> allocations do not use highmem.
It would fail if policy_zone didn't exist, that was my point. Without
policy_zone, we apply policy to all allocations and that causes
problems.
> Memory policies are not applied to slab
> allocs on NUMAQ. Thus slab allocations will use node 0 even
> if you restrict allocs to node 2 and 3.
>
They are not applied because policy_zone is used.
> > Here is the patch just to handle policies with ZONE_MOVABLE. The highest
> > zone still gets treated as it does today but allocations using ZONE_MOVABLE
> > will still be policied. It has been boot-tested and a basic compile job run
> > on a x86_64 NUMA machine (elm3b6 on test.kernel.org). Is there a
> > standard test for regression testing policies?
>
> There is a test in the numactl package by Andi Kleen.
>
ok, thanks.
> > diff --git a/include/linux/mempolicy.h b/include/linux/mempolicy.h
> > index e147cf5..5bdd656 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/mempolicy.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mempolicy.h
> > @@ -166,7 +166,7 @@ extern enum zone_type policy_zone;
> >
> > static inline void check_highest_zone(enum zone_type k)
> > {
> > - if (k > policy_zone)
> > + if (k > policy_zone && k != ZONE_MOVABLE)
> > policy_zone = k;
> > }
>
> That actually cleans up stuff...
>
> > diff --git a/mm/mempolicy.c b/mm/mempolicy.c
> > index 71b84b4..e798be5 100644
> > --- a/mm/mempolicy.c
> > +++ b/mm/mempolicy.c
> > @@ -149,7 +144,7 @@ static struct zonelist *bind_zonelist(nodemask_t *nodes)
> > lower zones etc. Avoid empty zones because the memory allocator
> > doesn't like them. If you implement node hot removal you
> > have to fix that. */
> > - k = policy_zone;
> > + k = MAX_NR_ZONES - 1;
>
> k = ZONE_MOVABLE?
>
I would work as k = ZONE_MOVABLE but the intention of the code is to add
all populated zones to the list, not all zones below ZONE_MOVABLE.
> > while (1) {
> > for_each_node_mask(nd, *nodes) {
> > struct zone *z = &NODE_DATA(nd)->node_zones[k];
>
> So bind zonelists now include two zones per node: The origin of
> ZONE_MOVABLE and ZONE_MOVABLE.
>
Right, hence the filtering later.
> > diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > index 40954fb..22485d5 100644
> > --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> > +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > @@ -1157,6 +1157,7 @@ get_page_from_freelist(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> > nodemask_t *allowednodes = NULL;/* zonelist_cache approximation */
> > int zlc_active = 0; /* set if using zonelist_cache */
> > int did_zlc_setup = 0; /* just call zlc_setup() one time */
> > + enum zone_type highest_zoneidx;
> >
> > zonelist_scan:
> > /*
> > @@ -1165,10 +1166,23 @@ zonelist_scan:
> > */
> > z = zonelist->zones;
> >
> > + /* For memory policies, get the highest allowed zone by the flags */
> > + if (NUMA_BUILD)
> > + highest_zoneidx = gfp_zone(gfp_mask);
> > +
> > do {
> > if (NUMA_BUILD && zlc_active &&
> > !zlc_zone_worth_trying(zonelist, z, allowednodes))
> > continue;
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * In NUMA, this could be a policy zonelist which contains
> > + * zones that may not be allowed by the current gfp_mask.
> > + * Check the zone is allowed by the current flags
> > + */
> > + if (NUMA_BUILD && zone_idx(*z) > highest_zoneidx)
> > + continue;
> > +
>
> Skip the zones that are higher?
>
Yeah, exactly. This has the affect of applying policy to policy_zone
(the highest zone) and ZONE_MOVABLE (which takes it's memory from the
highest zone)
> So for a __GFP_MOVABLE alloc we would scan all zones and for
> policy_zone just the policy zone.
>
Exactly.
> Lee should probably also review this in detail since he has recent
> experience fiddling around with memory policies. Paul has also
> experience in this area.
>
Lee had suggested almost the exact same solution but I'd like to hear if
the implementation matches his expectation.
> Maybe this can actually help to deal with some of the corner cases of
> memory policies (just hope the performance impact is not significant).
I ran the patch on a wide variety of machines, NUMA and non-NUMA. The
non-NUMA machines showed no differences as you would expect for
kernbench and aim9. On NUMA machines, I saw both small gains and small
regressions. By and large, the performance was the same or within 0.08%
for kernbench which is within noise basically.
It might be more pronounced on larger NUMA machines though, I cannot
generate those figures.
I'll try adding a should_filter to zonelist that is only set for
MPOL_BIND and see what it looks like.
--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-26 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-25 4:20 Christoph Lameter
2007-07-25 4:47 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 5:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-25 5:24 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 6:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-25 6:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 9:32 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-25 6:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-07-25 11:16 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-25 14:30 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-25 19:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-26 4:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-07-26 4:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-26 7:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-07-26 16:16 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-26 18:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-26 18:26 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-26 13:23 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2007-07-26 18:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-26 22:59 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-27 1:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-27 8:20 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-27 15:45 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-27 17:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-27 17:46 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-27 18:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-27 18:00 ` [PATCH] Document Linux Memory Policy - V2 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-27 18:38 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-27 19:01 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-27 19:21 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-27 18:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-27 19:24 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-31 15:14 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-31 16:34 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-31 19:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-31 19:46 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-31 19:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-31 20:23 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-31 20:48 ` [PATCH] Document Linux Memory Policy - V3 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-03 13:52 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-28 7:28 ` NUMA policy issues with ZONE_MOVABLE KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-07-28 11:57 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-28 14:10 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-07-28 14:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-07-30 12:41 ` Mel Gorman
2007-07-30 18:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-27 14:24 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-01 18:59 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-02 0:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-08-02 17:10 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-02 17:51 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-26 18:09 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-02 14:09 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-02 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-02 19:42 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-02 19:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-03 9:32 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-03 16:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-25 14:27 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-25 17:39 ` Mel Gorman
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