From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, nacc@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/11] Shared Policy Overview
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:42:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706270042.27365.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706261517050.21844@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Wednesday 27 June 2007 00:21, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> > Also note that because we can remove a shared policy from a "live"
> > inode, we need to handle potential races with another task performing
> > a get_file_policy() on the same file via a file descriptor access
> > [read()/write()/...]. Patch #9 handles this by defining an RCU reader
> > critical region in get_file_policy() and by synchronizing with this
> > in mpol_free_shared_policy().
>
> You are sure that this works? Just by looking at the description: It
> cannot work. Any allocator use of a memory policy must use rcu locks
> otherwise the memory policy can vanish from under us while allocating a
> page. This means you need to add this to alloc_pages_current
> and alloc_pages_node. Possible all of __alloc_pages must be handled
> under RCU. This is a significant increase of RCU use.
I've been actually looking at using RCUs for the shared policies
too to plug the recent reference count issue. I don't think it's a problem
because the RCU use can be limited to when policies are actually
used. Besides rcu_read_lock() is a nop on non preemptible kernels
anyways and users of preemptible kernels will probably not notice
it among all the other overhead they have anyways.
> If we can make this work then RCU should be used for all policies so that
> we can get rid of the requirement that policies can only be modified from
> the task context that created it.
Huh? RCU doesn't give you locking against multiple writers. Just existence
guarantees. And you can have those already by just holding the reference
count.
-Andi
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-25 19:52 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/11] Shared Policy: move shared policy to inode/mapping Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/11] Shared Policy: allocate shared policies as needed Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/11] Shared Policy: let vma policy ops handle sub-vma policies Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/11] Shared Policy: fix show_numa_maps() Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/11] Shared Policy: Add hugepage shmem policy vm_ops Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/11] Shared Policy: Factor alloc_page_pol routine Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/11] Shared Policy: use shared policy for page cache allocations Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 8/11] Shared Policy: fix migration of private mappings Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 9/11] Shared Policy: mapped file policy persistence model Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/11] Shared Policy: per cpuset shared file policy control Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 21:10 ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-27 17:33 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-27 19:52 ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-27 20:22 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-27 20:36 ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/11] Shared Policy: add generic file set/get policy vm ops Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-26 22:17 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/11] Shared Policy Overview Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 13:43 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-26 22:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-26 22:42 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-06-27 3:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 20:14 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-27 18:14 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-27 21:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 22:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-27 22:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 23:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-06-28 0:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-29 21:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-28 13:42 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-28 22:02 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-29 17:14 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 17:42 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-30 18:34 ` [PATCH/RFC] Fix Mempolicy Ref Counts - was " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-03 18:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29 1:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29 9:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-29 14:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29 17:41 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 20:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29 13:22 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 14:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 23:36 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 1:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29 13:30 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 14:20 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-29 21:40 ` Lee Schermerhorn
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