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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, nacc@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/11] Shared Policy Overview
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:42:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706270042.27365.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706261517050.21844@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Wednesday 27 June 2007 00:21, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> > Also note that because we can remove a shared policy from a "live"
> > inode, we need to handle potential races with another task performing
> > a get_file_policy() on the same file via a file descriptor access
> > [read()/write()/...].  Patch #9 handles this by defining an RCU reader
> > critical region in get_file_policy() and by synchronizing with this
> > in mpol_free_shared_policy().
>
> You are sure that this works? Just by looking at the description: It
> cannot work. Any allocator use of a memory policy must use rcu locks
> otherwise the memory policy can vanish from under us while allocating a
> page. This means you need to add this to alloc_pages_current
> and alloc_pages_node.  Possible all of __alloc_pages must be handled
> under RCU. This is a significant increase of RCU use.

I've been actually looking at using RCUs for the shared policies 
too to plug the recent reference count issue.  I don't think it's a problem 
because the RCU use can be limited to when policies are actually
used. Besides rcu_read_lock() is a nop on non preemptible kernels
anyways and users of preemptible kernels will probably not notice
it among all the other overhead they have anyways.

> If we can make this work then RCU should be used for all policies so that
> we can get rid of the requirement that policies can only be modified from
> the task context that created it.

Huh? RCU doesn't give you locking against multiple writers. Just existence
guarantees. And you can have those already by just holding the reference 
count.

-Andi

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-26 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-25 19:52 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/11] Shared Policy: move shared policy to inode/mapping Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/11] Shared Policy: allocate shared policies as needed Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/11] Shared Policy: let vma policy ops handle sub-vma policies Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/11] Shared Policy: fix show_numa_maps() Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:52 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/11] Shared Policy: Add hugepage shmem policy vm_ops Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/11] Shared Policy: Factor alloc_page_pol routine Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/11] Shared Policy: use shared policy for page cache allocations Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 8/11] Shared Policy: fix migration of private mappings Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 9/11] Shared Policy: mapped file policy persistence model Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/11] Shared Policy: per cpuset shared file policy control Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-25 21:10   ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-27 17:33     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-27 19:52       ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-27 20:22         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-27 20:36           ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-25 19:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/11] Shared Policy: add generic file set/get policy vm ops Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-26 22:17 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/11] Shared Policy Overview Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 13:43   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-26 22:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-26 22:42   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-06-27  3:25     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 20:14       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-27 18:14   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-27 21:37     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 22:01       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-27 22:08         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 23:46         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-06-28  0:14           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-29 21:47           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-28 13:42         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-28 22:02           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-29 17:14             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 17:42               ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-30 18:34                 ` [PATCH/RFC] Fix Mempolicy Ref Counts - was " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-03 18:09                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29  1:39           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29  9:01             ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-29 14:05               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29 17:41                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 20:15                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29 13:22             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 14:18               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-27 23:36       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29  1:41         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-29 13:30           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 14:20             ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-29 21:40               ` Lee Schermerhorn

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