From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
To: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
anton@samba.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] populated_map: fix !NUMA case, remove comment
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:28:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070612172858.GV3798@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181660782.5592.50.camel@localhost>
On 12.06.2007 [11:06:22 -0400], Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 20:20 -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > On 11.06.2007 [19:54:13 -0700], Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 11.06.2007 [19:20:58 -0700], Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no point in compiling the interleave logic for !NUMA.
> > > > > There needs to be some sort of !NUMA fallback in hugetlb. It would
> > > > > be better to call a interleave function in mempolicy.c that
> > > > > provides an appropriate shim for !NUMA.
> > > >
> > > > Hrm, if !NUMA, is the nid of the only node guaranteed to be 0? If so, I
> > > > can just
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > > Make alloc_fresh_huge_page() and other generic variants call into
> > > > the _node() versions with nid=0, if !NUMA.
> > > >
> > > > Would that be ok?
> > >
> > > I am not sure what you are up to. Just make sure that the changes are
> > > minimal. Look in the source code for other examples on how !NUMA
> > > situations were handled.
> >
> > I swear I'm trying to make the code do the right thing, and understand
> > the NUMA intricacies better. Sorry for the flood of e-mails and such. I
> > asked about specific other cases because they are used in !NUMA
> > situations too and I wasn't sure why node_populated_map should be
> > different.
> >
> > But ok, I will rely on the source to be correct and make my changelog
> > indicate where I got the ideas from.
>
> Nish: when this all settles down, I still need to make sure it works
> on our platforms with the funny DMA-only node. What that comes down
> to is that when alloc_fresh_huge_page() calls:
Ok, thanks for these details.
Would you be ok with stabilizing the generic definition of
node_populated_map as is (any present pages, regardless of location),
and then trying to figure out how to get your platform to work with
that?
> page = alloc_pages_node(nid,
> GFP_HIGHUSER|__GFP_COMP|GFP_THISNODE,
> HUGETLB_PAGE_ORDER);
>
> I need to get a page that is on nid. On our platform, GFP_HIGHUSER is
> going to specify the zonelist for ZONE_NORMAL. The first zone on this
> list needs to be on-node for nid. With the changes you've made to the
> definition of populated map, I think this won't be the case. I need
> to test your latest patches and fix that, if it's broken.
Ok. But that means your platform is broken now too, right? As in, it's
not a regression, per se?
I'm much more concerned in the short term about the whole
memoryless-node issue, which I think is more straight-forward, and
generic to fix.
> I still think using policy zone is the "right way" to go, here. After
> all, only pages in the policy zone are controlled by policy, and
> that's the goal of spreading out the huge pages across nodes--to make
> them available to satisfy memory policy at allocation time. But that
> would need some adjustments for x86_64 systems that have some nodes
> that are all/mostly DMA32 and other nodes that are populated in zones
> > DMA32, if we want to allocate huge pages out of the DMA32 zone.
Well, as of right now, I'm *only* trying to deal with memoryless nodes.
So then this whole notion of policy_zone is relatively moot. It matters
for your platform, I understand, but I think the fix there is more
complex and probably should be stacked on the current set, once it is
stabilized.
> As far as the static variable, and round-robin allocation: the current
> method "works" both for huge pages allocated at boot time and for huge
> pages allocated at run-time vi the vm.nr_hugepages sysctl. By "works",
> I mean that it continues to spread the pages evenly across the
> "populated" nodes. If, however, you use the task local counter to
> interleave fresh huge pages, each write to the nr_hugepages from a
> different task ["echo NN >.../nr_hugepages"] will start at node zero or
> the first populated node--assuming you're interleaving across populated
> nodes and not on-line nodes. That's probably OK if you always change
> nr_hugepages by a multiple of the number of populated nodes. And, if
> things get out of balance, we'll have your per node attribute, I hope,
> to adjust any individual node.
Yes, I will reply about the il_next thing in a sec. Maybe Christoph has
some cleverness.
And yes, I think the per-node attribute will fix most of the interface
problems for 'odd' NUMA systems.
Thanks,
Nish
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Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-11 20:27 [PATCH] Add populated_map to account for memoryless nodes Nishanth Aravamudan, Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-11 21:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 22:10 ` [PATCH v2] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 22:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 22:52 ` [PATCH v3] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:41 ` [PATCH v4] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 0:07 ` [PATCH] populated_map: fix !NUMA case, remove comment Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 0:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 1:43 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 1:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 1:52 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 2:39 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 2:02 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 2:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 2:32 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 2:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 3:20 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 3:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 3:31 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 15:06 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:28 ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2007-06-12 18:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 18:48 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 18:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:44 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:01 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:30 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 17:58 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 18:21 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 19:01 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 22:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 15:50 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 15:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 16:54 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 16:09 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-14 16:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 17:07 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 17:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 18:04 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 22:35 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 22:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:09 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 23:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:18 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 23:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:56 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-14 14:23 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 22:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:55 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:07 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:08 ` [PATCH][RFC] Fix INTERLEAVE with memoryless nodes Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:10 ` [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:11 ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:13 ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: add per-node nr_hugepages sysfs attribute Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 0:19 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 0:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 2:19 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 2:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 2:34 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:38 ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:17 ` [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 0:15 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 0:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 2:12 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 2:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 2:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 2:34 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 2:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 3:17 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 3:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 3:30 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 3:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 5:07 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 17:43 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 2:33 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 3:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12 3:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 3:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12 3:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 4:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12 5:09 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 5:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12 17:36 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 17:45 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 19:13 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-13 0:04 ` [PATCH v7][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:26 ` [PATCH v3][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:28 ` [PATCH v3][RFC] hugetlb: add per-node nr_hugepages sysfs attribute Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 18:23 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 19:19 ` [PATCH v4][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 20:05 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 20:29 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 21:02 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-23 19:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-23 20:14 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 21:04 ` [PATCH v7][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 21:50 ` [PATCH v7][UPDATE][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 14:28 ` [PATCH v6][RFC] " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-11 23:15 ` [PATCH][RFC] Fix INTERLEAVE with memoryless nodes Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 0:14 ` [PATCH v2][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 0:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 0:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-12 1:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 1:41 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 1:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-12 2:03 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 14:19 ` [PATCH v2] Add populated_map to account for " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:32 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:49 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 19:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:00 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 20:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:00 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 20:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 14:10 ` [PATCH] " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:35 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 18:54 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 2:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-06-12 2:46 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 2:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 3:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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