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From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
To: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	anton@samba.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] populated_map: fix !NUMA case, remove comment
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:28:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070612172858.GV3798@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181660782.5592.50.camel@localhost>

On 12.06.2007 [11:06:22 -0400], Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 20:20 -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > On 11.06.2007 [19:54:13 -0700], Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 11.06.2007 [19:20:58 -0700], Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes
> > > > > 
> > > > > There is no point in compiling the interleave logic for !NUMA.
> > > > > There needs to be some sort of !NUMA fallback in hugetlb. It would
> > > > > be better to call a interleave function in mempolicy.c that
> > > > > provides an appropriate shim for !NUMA.
> > > > 
> > > > Hrm, if !NUMA, is the nid of the only node guaranteed to be 0? If so, I
> > > > can just
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > > Make alloc_fresh_huge_page() and other generic variants call into
> > > > the _node() versions with nid=0, if !NUMA.
> > > > 
> > > > Would that be ok?
> > > 
> > > I am not sure what you are up to. Just make sure that the changes are
> > > minimal. Look in the source code for other examples on how !NUMA
> > > situations were handled.
> > 
> > I swear I'm trying to make the code do the right thing, and understand
> > the NUMA intricacies better. Sorry for the flood of e-mails and such. I
> > asked about specific other cases because they are used in !NUMA
> > situations too and I wasn't sure why node_populated_map should be
> > different.
> > 
> > But ok, I will rely on the source to be correct and make my changelog
> > indicate where I got the ideas from.
> 
> Nish:  when this all settles down, I still need to make sure it works
> on our platforms with the funny DMA-only node.  What that comes down
> to is that when alloc_fresh_huge_page() calls:

Ok, thanks for these details.

Would you be ok with stabilizing the generic definition of
node_populated_map as is (any present pages, regardless of location),
and then trying to figure out how to get your platform to work with
that?

> 		page = alloc_pages_node(nid,
>                                GFP_HIGHUSER|__GFP_COMP|GFP_THISNODE,
>                                HUGETLB_PAGE_ORDER);
> 
> I need to get a page that is on nid.  On our platform, GFP_HIGHUSER is
> going to specify the zonelist for ZONE_NORMAL.  The first zone on this
> list needs to be on-node for nid.  With the changes you've made to the
> definition of populated map, I think this won't be the case.  I need
> to test your latest patches and fix that, if it's broken.

Ok. But that means your platform is broken now too, right? As in, it's
not a regression, per se?

I'm much more concerned in the short term about the whole
memoryless-node issue, which I think is more straight-forward, and
generic to fix.

> I still think using policy zone is the "right way" to go, here.  After
> all, only pages in the policy zone are controlled by policy, and
> that's the goal of spreading out the huge pages across nodes--to make
> them available to satisfy memory policy at allocation time.  But that
> would need some adjustments for x86_64 systems that have some nodes
> that are all/mostly DMA32 and other nodes that are populated in zones
> > DMA32, if we want to allocate huge pages out of the DMA32 zone.   

Well, as of right now, I'm *only* trying to deal with memoryless nodes.
So then this whole notion of policy_zone is relatively moot. It matters
for your platform, I understand, but I think the fix there is more
complex and probably should be stacked on the current set, once it is
stabilized.

> As far as the static variable, and round-robin allocation:  the current
> method "works" both for huge pages allocated at boot time and for huge
> pages allocated at run-time vi the vm.nr_hugepages sysctl.  By "works",
> I mean that it continues to spread the pages evenly across the
> "populated" nodes.  If, however, you use the task local counter to
> interleave fresh huge pages, each write to the nr_hugepages from a
> different task ["echo NN >.../nr_hugepages"] will start at node zero or
> the first populated node--assuming you're interleaving across populated
> nodes and not on-line nodes.  That's probably OK if you always change
> nr_hugepages by a multiple of the number of populated nodes.  And, if
> things get out of balance, we'll have your per node attribute, I hope,
> to adjust any individual node.

Yes, I will reply about the il_next thing in a sec. Maybe Christoph has
some cleverness.

And yes, I think the per-node attribute will fix most of the interface
problems for 'odd' NUMA systems.

Thanks,
Nish

-- 
Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
IBM Linux Technology Center

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-12 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-11 20:27 [PATCH] Add populated_map to account for memoryless nodes Nishanth Aravamudan, Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-11 21:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 22:10   ` [PATCH v2] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 22:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 22:52       ` [PATCH v3] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:00         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:41           ` [PATCH v4] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:45             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:07               ` [PATCH] populated_map: fix !NUMA case, remove comment Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:41                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:43                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  1:45                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:52                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:39                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:02                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:20                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:32                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:54                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:20                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:21                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:31                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 15:06                             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:28                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2007-06-12 18:43                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 18:48                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 18:51                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:44                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:48                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:58                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:01                                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:30                                             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 17:58                                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 18:21                                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 19:01                                                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 22:51                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 15:50                                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 15:57                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 16:54                                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 16:09                                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-14 16:15                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 17:07                                                           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 17:16                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 18:04                                                               ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 22:35                                                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 22:50                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:09                                                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 23:12                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:18                                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 23:26                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:56                                                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-14 14:23                                                   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 22:49                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:55                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:41                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:07                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:13                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:08         ` [PATCH][RFC] Fix INTERLEAVE with memoryless nodes Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:10           ` [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:11             ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:13               ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: add per-node nr_hugepages sysfs attribute Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:40                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:42                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:19                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:43                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:19                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:22                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:34                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:38               ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:17             ` [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:15               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:47                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:12                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:21                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:25                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:34                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:55                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:17                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:19                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:30                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:48                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  5:07                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:47                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 17:43                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:49                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:33                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:44                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12  3:50                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:53                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12  3:53                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  4:14                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12  5:09                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  5:15                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12 17:36                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:50                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 17:45                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 19:13                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-13  0:04                           ` [PATCH v7][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:26                             ` [PATCH v3][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:28                               ` [PATCH v3][RFC] hugetlb: add per-node nr_hugepages sysfs attribute Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 18:23                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 19:19                                   ` [PATCH v4][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 20:05                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 20:29                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 21:02                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-23 19:23                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-23 20:14                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 21:04                             ` [PATCH v7][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 21:50                               ` [PATCH v7][UPDATE][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 14:28               ` [PATCH v6][RFC] " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-11 23:15           ` [PATCH][RFC] Fix INTERLEAVE with memoryless nodes Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:14             ` [PATCH v2][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:42               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:57               ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-12  1:12                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:41                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  1:52                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-12  2:03                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 14:19       ` [PATCH v2] Add populated_map to account for " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:32         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:45         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:17           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:22             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:49               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 19:51                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:00                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 20:03                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:10                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:52                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:58                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:00                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 20:06                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 14:10   ` [PATCH] " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:35     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:39       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 18:54         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:00           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-06-12  2:46   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:53   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:04     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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