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From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>,
	Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com, ak@suse.de, anton@samba.org,
	mel@csn.ul.ie, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] gfp.h: GFP_THISNODE can go to other nodes if some are unpopulated
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:12:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070611171201.GB3798@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706110926110.15868@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On 11.06.2007 [09:42:14 -0700], Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> 
> > Well maybe we better fix this? I put an effort into using only cachelines 
> > already used for GFP_THISNODE since this is in a very performance 
> > critical path but at that point I was not thinking that we 
> > would have memoryless nodes.
> 
> Duh. Too bad. The node information is not available in __alloc_pages at 
> all. The only thing we have to go on is a zonelist. And the first element 
> of that zonelist must no longer be the node from which we picked up 
> the zonelist after memoryless nodes come into play.
> 
> We could check this for alloc_pages_node() and alloc_pages_current by 
> putting in some code into the place where we retrive the zonelist based on 
> the current policy.
> 
> And looking at that code I can see some more bad consequences of 
> memoryless nodes:
> 
> 1. Interleave to the memoryless node will be redirected to the nearest
>    node to the memoryless node. This will typically result in the nearest
>    node getting double the allocations if interleave is set.
> 
>    So interleave is basically broken. It will no longer spread out the
>    allocations properly.
> 
> 2. MPOL_BIND may allow allocations outside of the nodes specified.
>    It assumes that the first item of the zonelist of each node
>    is that zone.
> 
> 
> So we have a universal assumption in the VM that the first zone of a
> zonelist contains the local node. The current way of generating
> zonelists for memoryless zones is broken (unsurprisingly since the NUMA 
> handling was never designed to handle memoryless nodes).
> 
> I think we can to fix all these troubles by adding a empty zone as
> a first zone in the zonelist if the node has no memory of its own.
> Then we need to make sure that we do the right thing of falling back 
> anytime these empty zones will be encountered.
> 
> This will have the effect of
> 
> 1. GFP_THISNODE will fail since there is no memory in the empty zone.
> 
> 2. MPOL_BIND will not allocate on nodes outside of the specified set
>    since there will be an empty zone in the generated zonelist.
> 
> 3. Interleave will still hit an empty zones and fall back to the next.
>    We should add detection of memoryless nodes to mempoliy.c to skip
>    those nodes.

These are the exact semantics, I expected. so I'll be happy to test/work
on these fixes.

This would also make it unnecessary to add the populated checks in
various places, I think, as THISNODE will mean ONLYTHISNODE (and perhaps
should be renamed in the series).

Thanks,
Nish

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Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
IBM Linux Technology Center

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-11 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-07 15:04 [PATCH] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-07 18:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-07 22:01   ` [PATCH v2] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-07 22:05     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-07 22:16       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 12:49     ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-06-11 16:12       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 16:42         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 17:12           ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2007-06-11 18:29             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 18:46               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 18:54                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 19:36               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 19:43                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 20:18                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 18:23           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-11 18:40             ` Christoph Lameter

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