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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <glebn@voltaire.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document Linux Memory Policy
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 22:23:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706042223.41681.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706041003040.23603@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

>
> The other issues will still remain! This is a fundamental change to the
> nature of memory policies. They are no longer under the control of the
> task but imposed from the outside. 

To be fair this can already happen with tmpfs (and hopefully soon hugetlbfs
again -- i plan to do some other work there anyways and will put 
that in too) . But with first touch it is relatively benign.

> If one wants to do this then the whole 
> scheme of memory policies needs to be reworked and rethought in order to
> be consistent and usable. For example you would need the ability to clear
> a memory policy.

That's just setting it to default.

Frankly I think this whole discussion is quite useless without discussing 
concrete use cases. So far I haven't heard any where this any file policy
would be a great improvement. Any further complication of the code which
is already quite complex needs a very good rationale.

-Andi

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-04 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-29 19:33 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-29 20:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-29 20:16   ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-30 16:17     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-30 17:41       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31  8:20       ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-05-31 14:49         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 15:56           ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-06-01 21:15         ` [PATCH] enhance memory policy sys call man pages v1 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-23  6:11           ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-23  6:32           ` mbind.2 man page patch Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-23 14:26             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-26 17:19               ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-26 18:06                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-26 18:18                   ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-23  6:32           ` get_mempolicy.2 " Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-28  9:31             ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-09 18:43               ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-09 20:57                 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-16 20:05               ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-18  5:50                 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-21 15:45                   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-22  4:10                     ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-22 16:08                       ` [PATCH] Mempolicy Man Pages 2.64 1/3 - mbind.2 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 11:29                         ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-22 16:10                       ` [PATCH] Mempolicy Man Pages 2.64 2/3 - set_mempolicy.2 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 11:30                         ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-22 16:12                       ` [PATCH] Mempolicy Man Pages 2.64 3/3 - get_mempolicy.2 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 11:30                         ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-27 10:46                 ` get_mempolicy.2 man page patch Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-23  6:33           ` set_mempolicy.2 " Michael Kerrisk
2007-05-30 16:55   ` [PATCH] Document Linux Memory Policy Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-30 17:56     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31  6:18       ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31  6:41         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31  6:47           ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31  6:56             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31  7:11               ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31  7:24                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31  7:39                   ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 17:43                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 17:07                   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 10:43             ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-31 11:04               ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 11:30                 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 15:26                   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 17:41                     ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 18:56                       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 20:06                         ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 20:43                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01  9:38                             ` Gleb Natapov
2007-06-01 10:21                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 12:25                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-06-01 13:09                                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 17:15                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 18:43                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-01 19:38                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 19:48                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-01 21:05                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 21:56                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 13:46                                             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-04 16:34                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 17:02                                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-04 17:11                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 20:23                                                     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-06-04 21:51                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-05 14:30                                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 20:28                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2007-06-01 20:45                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-01 21:10                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 21:58                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-02  7:23                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 11:47                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-31 11:59                   ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 12:15                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-31 12:18                       ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 18:28       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 18:35         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 19:29           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 19:25       ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-31 20:22         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-29 20:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-30 16:04   ` Lee Schermerhorn

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