From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>, ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: swap prefetch improvements
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 23:44:26 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705212344.27511.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070521100320.GA1801@elte.hu>
On Monday 21 May 2007 20:03, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
> > It turns out that fixing swap prefetch was not that hard to fix and
> > improve upon, and since Andrew hasn't dropped swap prefetch, instead
> > here are a swag of fixes and improvements, [...]
>
> it's a reliable win on my testbox too:
>
> # echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/swap_prefetch
> Timed portion 30279 milliseconds
>
> versus:
>
> # echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swap_prefetch
> # ./sp_tester
> [...]
>
> Timed portion 36605 milliseconds
>
> i've repeated these tests to make sure it's a stable win and indeed it
> is:
>
> # swap-prefetch-on:
>
> Timed portion 29704 milliseconds
>
> # swap-prefetch-off:
>
> Timed portion 34863 milliseconds
>
> Nice work Con!
Thanks!
>
> A suggestion for improvement: right now swap-prefetch does a small bit
> of swapin every 5 seconds and stays idle inbetween. Could this perhaps
> be made more agressive (optionally perhaps), if the system is not
> swapping otherwise? If block-IO level instrumentation is needed to
> determine idleness of block IO then that is justified too i think.
Hmm.. The timer waits 5 seconds before trying to prefetch, but then only stops
if it detects any activity elsewhere. It doesn't actually try to go idle in
between but it doesn't take much activity to put it back to sleep, hence
detecting yet another "not quite idle" period and then it goes to sleep
again. I guess the sleep interval can actually be changed as another tunable
from 5 seconds to whatever the user wanted.
> Another suggestion: swap-prefetch seems to be doing all the right
> decisions in the sp_test.c case - so would it be possible to add
> statistics so that it could be verified how much of the swapped-in pages
> were indeed a 'hit' - and how many were recycled without them being
> reused? That could give a reliable, objective metric about how efficient
> swap-prefetch is in any workload.
Well the advantage is twofold potentially; 1. the pages that have been
prefecthed and become minor faults when they would have been major faults,
and 2. those that become minor faults (via 1) and then become major faults
again (since a copy is kept on backing store with swap prefetch). The
sp_tester only tests for 1, although it would be easy enough to simply do
another big malloc at the end and see how fast it swapped out again as a
marker of 2. As for an in-kernel option, it could get kind of expensive
tracking pages that have done one or both of these. I'll think about an
affordable way to do this, perhaps it could be just done as a
debugging/testing patch, but if would be nice to make it cheap enough to have
there permanently as well. The pages end up in swap cache (in the reverse
direction pages normally get to swap cache) so the accounting could be done
somewhere around there.
> Ingo
Thanks for comments!
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2007-04-30 23:20 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Andrew Morton
2007-04-30 23:59 ` Bill Irwin
2007-05-01 0:09 ` nfsd/md patches " Neil Brown
2007-05-01 9:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 9:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:52 ` Neil Brown
2007-05-01 10:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 14:34 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-05-01 0:54 ` MADV_FREE functionality Rik van Riel
2007-05-01 1:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 1:23 ` Rik van Riel
2007-05-01 7:13 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-05-01 1:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-01 1:39 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Stefan Richter
2007-05-01 2:30 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans (RE: input) Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-01 8:11 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- pfn_valid_within Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-01 8:19 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 8:44 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- vm bugfixes Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 8:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 19:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 3:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 9:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 14:00 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 1:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 10:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-03 12:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 9:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 9:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-08 3:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-03 12:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 12:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 12:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 13:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 16:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 4:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 12:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 14:28 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-09 14:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 15:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-09 22:24 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 8:46 ` pcmcia ioctl removal Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 8:56 ` Russell King
2007-05-01 8:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 9:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 14:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-01 9:16 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-01 9:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 10:16 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-01 10:26 ` Gabriel C
2007-05-01 10:52 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 10:12 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-01 11:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 12:06 ` Konstantin Münning
2007-05-01 13:56 ` Rogan Dawes
2007-05-01 19:10 ` Russell King
2007-05-01 20:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-09 12:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-09 13:00 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-09 13:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-09 19:11 ` Romano Giannetti
2007-05-10 12:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-01 8:48 ` pci hotplug patches Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-02 3:57 ` Greg KH
2007-05-13 20:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-14 11:48 ` Greg KH
2007-05-01 8:54 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:04 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 11:31 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Andi Kleen
2007-05-03 3:48 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Ken Chen
2007-05-01 8:55 ` consolidate-generic_writepages-and-mpage_writepages.patch Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:17 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Pekka Enberg
2007-05-01 9:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-01 12:19 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-01 17:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-01 10:16 ` fragmentation avoidance " Mel Gorman
2007-05-01 13:02 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- lumpy reclaim Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-01 18:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-01 19:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 14:54 ` fragmentation avoidance Re: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 19:00 ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-01 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-07 13:07 ` Yasunori Goto
2007-05-01 14:31 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: mm-more-rmap-checking Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 13:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 0:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 16:56 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Zan Lynx
2007-05-01 17:06 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: mm-detach_vmas_to_be_unmapped-fix Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 18:10 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 19:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 19:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 20:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 20:36 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 20:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 21:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 12:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 17:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:11 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 19:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-02 20:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:52 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-02 18:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 21:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 12:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:08 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 18:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:42 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 18:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 17:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 18:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 19:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-02 19:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03 8:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 16:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 8:46 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 8:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03 9:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 21:04 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub on PowerPC Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 21:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 22:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-04 0:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-04 0:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 16:45 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 15:54 ` swap-prefetch: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 16:15 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-03 16:23 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-03 22:14 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-04 7:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-04 9:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 12:10 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-05 8:42 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-06 10:13 ` [ck] " Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-06 18:22 ` Jory A. Pratt
2007-05-09 23:28 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-10 0:05 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 1:34 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-10 1:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 3:48 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-10 3:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 5:52 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-10 7:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 7:20 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-10 12:34 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-12 4:46 ` [PATCH] mm: swap prefetch improvements Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 5:03 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 5:15 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 5:51 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 7:28 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 8:14 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 8:21 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 8:37 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 8:57 ` [PATCH respin] " Con Kolivas
2007-05-21 10:03 ` [PATCH] " Ingo Molnar
2007-05-21 13:44 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2007-05-21 16:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:15 ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-22 10:20 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:37 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:54 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 11:04 ` Con Kolivas
[not found] ` <20070522111104.GA14950@elte.hu>
2007-05-22 11:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 20:18 ` [ck] " Michael Chang
2007-05-22 20:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-10 3:58 ` swap-prefetch: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Con Kolivas
2007-05-07 14:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-07 14:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-07 17:47 ` Josef Sipek
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