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From: mel@skynet.ie (Mel Gorman)
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net, clameter@sgi.com, apw@shadowen.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Only check absolute watermarks for ALLOC_HIGH and ALLOC_HARDER allocations
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:24:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070516132419.GA18542@skynet.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <464AF589.2000000@yahoo.com.au>

On (16/05/07 22:14), Nick Piggin didst pronounce:
> Mel Gorman wrote:
> >zone_watermark_ok() checks if there are enough free pages including a 
> >reserve.
> >High-order allocations additionally check if there are enough free 
> >high-order
> >pages in relation to the watermark adjusted based on the requested size. If
> >there are not enough free high-order pages available, 0 is returned so that
> >the caller enters direct reclaim.
> >
> >ALLOC_HIGH and ALLOC_HARDER allocations are allowed to dip further into
> >the reserves but also take into account if the number of free high-order
> >pages meet the adjusted watermarks. As these allocations cannot sleep,
> 
> Why can't ALLOC_HIGH or ALLOC_HARDER sleep? This patch seems wrong to
> me.
> 

In page_alloc.c

        if ((unlikely(rt_task(p)) && !in_interrupt()) || !wait)
                alloc_flags |= ALLOC_HARDER;

See the !wait part.

The ALLOC_HIGH applies to __GFP_HIGH allocations which are allowed to
dip into emergency pools and go below the reserve.

> >they cannot enter direct reclaim so the allocation can fail even though
> >the pages are available and the number of free pages is well above the
> >watermark for order-0.
> >
> >This patch alters the behaviour of zone_watermark_ok() slightly. Watermarks
> >are still obeyed but when an allocator is flagged ALLOC_HIGH or 
> >ALLOC_HARDER,
> >we only check that there is sufficient memory over the reserve to satisfy
> >the allocation, allocation size is ignored.  This patch also documents
> >better what zone_watermark_ok() is doing.
> 
> This is wrong because now you lose the buffering of higher order pages
> for more urgent allocation classes against less urgent ones.
> 

ALLOC_HARDER is an urgent allocation class.

> Think of how the order-0 allocation buffering works with the watermarks
> and consider that we're trying to do the same exact thing for higher order
> allocations here.
> 

What actually happens is that high-order allocations fail even though
the watermarks are met because they cannot enter direct reclaim.

> -- 
> SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.

-- 
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Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-16 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-14 17:32 [PATCH 0/2] Two patches to address bug report in relation to high-order atomic allocations Mel Gorman
2007-05-14 17:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] Have kswapd keep a minimum order free other than order-0 Mel Gorman
2007-05-14 18:01   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-14 18:13     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-14 18:24       ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-14 18:52         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-15  8:42         ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-05-15  9:16           ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-16  8:25             ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16  9:03               ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-16  9:10                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16  9:45                   ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-16 12:28                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 13:50                       ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-16 14:04                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 15:32                           ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-16 15:44                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 16:46                               ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-17  7:09                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-17 12:22                                   ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-18  2:25                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 15:46                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 14:20                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 15:06                           ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-05-16 15:33                             ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-15 17:09           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-15  4:39       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-14 18:19     ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-14 17:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] Only check absolute watermarks for ALLOC_HIGH and ALLOC_HARDER allocations Mel Gorman
2007-05-16 12:14   ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 13:24     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2007-05-16 13:35       ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 14:00         ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-16 14:11           ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 18:28             ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-16 18:48               ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-16 19:00                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-17  7:34               ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-14 18:13 ` [PATCH 0/2] Two patches to address bug report in relation to high-order atomic allocations Nicolas Mailhot

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