From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] scalable rw_mutex
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 22:03:21 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070512180321.GA320@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1178989068.19461.3.camel@lappy>
On 05/12, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 20:04 +0400, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > this code roughly does (the only reader does unlock)
> >
> > READER WRITER
> >
> > readers = 0; state = 1;
> > wmb(); wmb();
> > CHECK(state != 0) CHECK(readers == 0)
> >
> > We need to ensure that we can't miss both CHECKs. Either reader
> > should see RW_MUTEX_READER_SLOW, o writer sees "readers == 0"
> > and does not sleep.
> >
> > In that case both barriers should be converted to smp_mb(). There
> > was a _long_ discussion about STORE-MB-LOAD behaviour, and experts
> > seem to believe everething is ok.
>
> Ah, but note that both those CHECK()s have a rmb(), so that ends up
> being:
>
> READER WRITER
>
> readers = 0; state = 1;
> wmb(); wmb();
>
> rmb(); rmb();
> if (state != 0) if (readers == 0)
>
> and a wmb+rmb is a full mb, right?
I used to think the same, but this is wrong: wmb+rmb != mb. wmb+rmb
doesn't provide LOAD,STORE or STORE,LOAD ordering.
for example,
LOAD;
rmb(); wmb();
STORE;
it is still possible that STORE comes before LOAD. At least this
is my understanding.
Oleg.
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-11 13:15 [PATCH 0/2] convert mmap_sem to a " Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-11 13:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-11 14:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-11 16:31 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-11 17:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-11 18:05 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-12 18:55 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-12 18:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-12 18:11 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-16 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-16 23:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-17 0:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-12 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12 19:21 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-12 21:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-11 17:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-11 23:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12 7:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-12 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-12 16:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12 16:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-12 18:03 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-05-14 10:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-14 11:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-15 0:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-05-15 7:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-15 15:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-05-15 16:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-15 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-05-11 13:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: change mmap_sem over to the " Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-11 16:17 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-11 17:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-11 18:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-14 11:54 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-11 15:56 ` [PATCH 0/2] convert mmap_sem to a " Ingo Molnar
2007-05-11 16:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-11 17:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-14 12:07 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-14 12:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-11 17:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-14 11:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-14 12:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-12 9:27 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-12 10:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-12 13:44 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-12 14:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-12 15:34 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-12 15:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-12 15:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-14 8:50 ` Esben Nielsen
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