From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: dirty balancing deadlock
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:01:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070219010102.GC9289@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HIwnX-0005Sr-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 01:54:31AM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > > > > If so, writes to B will decrease the dirty memory threshold.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, but not by enough. Say A dirties a 1100 pages, limit is 1000.
> > > > > Some pages queued for writeback (doesn't matter how much). B writes
> > > > > back 1, 1099 dirty remain in A, zero in B. balance_dirty_pages() for
> > > > > B doesn't know that there's nothing more to write back for B, it's
> > > > > just waiting there for those 1099, which'll never get written.
> > > >
> > > > hm, OK, arguable. I guess something like this..
> > >
> > > Doesn't help the fuse case, but does seem to help the loopback mount
> > > one.
> > >
> > > For fuse it's worse with the patch: now the write triggered by the
> > > balance recurses into fuse, with disastrous results, since the fuse
> > > writeback is now blocked on the userspace queue.
> > >
> > > fusexmp_fh_no D 40136678 0 505 494 506 504 (NOTLB)
> > > 08982b78 00000001 00000000 08f9f9b4 0805d8cb 089a75f8 08982b78 08f98000
> > > 08f98000 08f9f9dc 0805a38a 089a7100 08982680 08f9f9cc 08f98000 08f98000
> > > 085d8300 08982680 089a7100 08f9fa34 08183006 089a7100 08982680 089a7100 Call Trace:
> > > 08f9f9a0: [<0805d8cb>] switch_to_skas+0x3b/0x83
> > > 08f9f9b8: [<0805a38a>] _switch_to+0x49/0x99
> > > 08f9f9e0: [<08183006>] schedule+0x246/0x547
> > > 08f9fa38: [<08103c7e>] fuse_get_req_wp+0xe9/0x14a
> > > 08f9fa70: [<08103d2e>] fuse_writepage+0x4f/0x12c
> >
> > In general, writepage is supposed to do work without blocking on
> > expensive locks that will get pdflush and dirty reclaim stuck in this
> > fashion. You'll probably have to take the same approach reiserfs does
> > in data=journal mode, which is leaving the page dirty if fuse_get_req_wp
> > is going to block without making progress.
>
> Pdflush, and dirty reclaim set wbc->nonblocking to true.
> balance_dirty_pages and fsync don't. The problem here is that
> Andrew's patch is wrong to let balance_dirty_pages() try to write back
> pages from a different queue.
async or sync, writepage is supposed to either make progress or bail.
loopback aside, if the fuse call is blocking long term, you're going to
run into problems.
-chris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-19 1:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-18 18:28 Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-18 20:53 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-18 21:25 ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-18 22:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-18 22:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-18 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-18 23:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-18 23:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 0:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19 0:30 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19 0:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19 0:45 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-19 0:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19 1:01 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2007-02-19 1:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-20 0:16 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-20 8:53 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19 17:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19 23:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-20 0:13 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-20 8:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-20 11:30 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-21 21:36 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-22 7:42 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-22 7:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-22 8:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
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