From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: clameter@sgi.com, aubreylee@gmail.com, svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org,
Michael.Hennerich@analog.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Limit the size of the pagecache
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:00:21 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070125150021.bf600997.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45B842E6.5040008@redhat.com>
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:40:54 -0500
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:28:15 -0500
> > Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > I always says Linux is different from mainframes.
>
> It's not just about Linux.
>
> Applications behave differently too from the way they were 15
> years ago.
>
> Some databases, eg. sleepycat's db, map the whole database in
> memory. Other databases, like MySQL and postgresql, rely on
> the kernel's page cache to cache the most frequently accessed
> data.
>
> To make matters more interesting, memory sizes have increased
> by a factor 1000, but disk seek times have only gotten 10 times
> faster. This means that simplistic memory management algorithms
> can hurt performance a lot more than they could back then.
>
> In short, I am not convinced that any of the simple tunable knobs
> from the "good old days" will do much to actually help people
> with modern workloads on modern computers.
>
I agree.
My current concerns is not adding knobs but how to show/explain
what the users does. In most case, users don't know what they does
and believes system-information can tell that.
for example)
A user sometimes asks "why amount of system-A's pagecache and system-B's are
different from each other ?. I definitly does the same jobs on the both system."
...just because he used different deta-set ;)
Thanks,
-Kame
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-24 0:49 Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 2:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24 3:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 5:47 ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 3:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24 3:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 3:51 ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 4:03 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-26 10:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-24 3:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24 4:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 5:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25 0:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25 2:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25 3:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25 4:28 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 5:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25 5:40 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 6:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2007-01-26 10:29 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 18:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24 7:04 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24 7:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24 12:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24 12:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24 14:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 20:06 ` Erik Andersen
2007-01-25 2:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25 8:07 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24 14:22 ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-25 2:27 ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 12:33 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24 14:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25 4:17 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25 4:45 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 5:49 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25 16:07 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 17:57 ` Balbir Singh
2007-01-25 6:35 ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-25 6:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25 7:49 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25 4:18 ` Rik van Riel
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2007-01-25 14:51 ` Bodo Eggert
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